I think That Guy needs four more :banana: - great job!
Check out the 200 back for 30-34 - what a motley crew of bloggers showing up. :D
That's my first TT :blush: and I am happy to share it with James and Tom :applaud: - wait, how did James get in for the 200 back??? haha
Congrats! That was a blazing 200 back time.
Indeed... Canadian Masters Swimming Championships 2011 - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums
A fairly large % of their attendees are USMS folk. Frankly, if they can't bother to do us the small favor of measuring the pool, I won't ever attend Canadian Nationals.
A fairly large % of their attendees are USMS folk. Frankly, if they can't bother to do us the small favor of measuring the pool, I won't ever attend Canadian Nationals.
More linky... www.usms.org/.../records-2012-1-15-1.pdf
Start near the bottom of page 2 for the relevant bits. No conclusions, but very relevant discussion.
More linky... www.usms.org/.../records-2012-1-15-1.pdf
Start near the bottom of page 2 for the relevant bits. No conclusions, but very relevant discussion.
Pool length measurements: some issues/concerns.
Problems that we’re not aware of will become more obvious because there are more electronic submissions. Below are some issues that come up for future consideration:
FINA World Record requirements are less stringent than USMS Top Ten. Is this appropriate? The rules originated due to pools in the US that were noted to be short and had results submitted from them anyway.
Prelim/Finals measuring repeatedly between sessions. Is this necessary? One committee member suggests using physical markings so you can quickly tell that nothing has moved without having to completely re-measure. Some bulkheads have pins in place and other devices that make movement highly unlikely.
Accuracy and precision of the measuring device vs the measurement procedure: Laser devices may be accurate, but the use of them can be flawed.
Generally speaking are the rules too strict? Hard to codify all the possible situations involved. USA-S meets are brought up as to why we can’t use those times without following USMS measurements. If they are good enough for USA-S, why not USMS?
Why are exact measurements necessary? As long as the facility meets the minimum, isn’t that good enough?
Committee members question as to how the current measurement rules were put into place. Voted on by the HOD? That is believed to be the case.
European pools/meet directors get offended when questioned about measurements, leaving USMS swimmers abroad with a difficult situation when it comes to procuring times accepted by our standards.
I sure hope something comes of this. All very valid points. Especially how you can get a FINA World Record with less "technical stuff" than for a simple annual Top Ten, or even just a meet results submission for the times database.
Check out the 200 back for 30-34 - what a motley crew of bloggers showing up. :D
That's my first TT :blush: and I am happy to share it with James and Tom :applaud: - wait, how did James get in for the 200 back??? haha
That's my secret... :)
Honestly...SCM or SCY backstroke in itself isn't too bad for me. The turns help a lot. The biggy for this particular swim was my race with the next lane over, David Barnes (56 yrs).
www.usms.org/.../heat.php
I lost to him, but it was a good race, and it propelled me into the TT. :bow: Afterward, David told me that he went so fast 'cause he didn't want to lose to "a kid" like me. Isn't competition great!! :applaud:
I sure hope something comes of this. All very valid points. Especially how you can get a FINA World Record with less "technical stuff" than for a simple annual Top Ten, or even just a meet results submission for the times database.
Also looking ahead to this year... James, you're planning on CMSC2012 in Kelowna, and I'm sure you want your swims there to count. Maybe take a measuring device with you? I'm sure the border agents won't have any problem with you bringing a laser into their country :bolt:
All meets sanctioned by USA-S or by another FINA member organization are automatically recognized by USMS.
I'll look into this meet, I'm pretty sure I know what happened here.
I swam at that meet and it was well run, comparable to US Nationals. Montreal will host the worlds in 2014. I doubt that the meet directors did anything wrong. Canadians have National records too and set many of them during this particular meet. I can't imagine what the problem is.:canada:
All meets sanctioned by USA-S or by another FINA member organization are automatically recognized by USMS.
I'll look into this meet, I'm pretty sure I know what happened here.
I swam at that meet and it was well run, comparable to US Nationals. Montreal will host the Worlds in 2014. I doubt that the meet directors did anything wrong. Canadians have National records too and set many of them during this particular meet. I can't imagine what the problem is.:canada:
