Is this type and amount of weightlifting enough?

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So today I'm starting this thread because I am fairly new to weightlifting in terms to help my speed. I started lifting in August, back then my times were a 26 for my 50 free, 57 for my 100 free, and a 2:12 for my 200 free. My goals are to get about 24's/25's for my 50, 54's/55's for my 100 free, and under 2:06 for my 200 free by February, and and ultimate goal of 1:55.45 for my 200 free by May. So right now my weight lifting maxes are at: 140 pounds (including the bar) at regular bench lifting 250 pounds (including the bar) at regular back squats Now I don't know my max for front squats, but I've been capable for doing reps of 8 of 115 pounds I also don't know my max for incline bench lifting but I've been capable of doing reps of 10 with 65 pounds Also my reps for regular bench lifting is 3x5 105 pounds and for regular back squats are 4x10 105 pounds I can only lift mondays-thursday at my weights class for 1 hour. The schedule goes as follows: Mondays - we lift (arms) Tuesdays - we squat (legs) Wednesdays - all equipment is open except for benches (every now and then I dedicate this day for push ups) Thursdays - we lift (arms) So what do you think? Should I modify my workout to reach my goals. Note: my best times come from the summer, I haven't swam a meet since the summer due to my schedule, but there is a meet in December I do have time for.
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    But hey...great for working the mirror eh??!! Well I am already really really ridiculously good looking so its not that important to me. I could say the same thing about doing it wrong, but you would probably just requote Dr. Sharpe so why go through that again...
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    I'm a fan of bodyweight exercise like all variations of pushups, pullup, squats, burpees, core exercises etc and if you do that in a circuit you also get a good conditioning. You can also add kettlebells, weights, dumbbells, heavy bag training, stretch cord. I can recommend a good book called Infinite Intensity: www.rosstraining.com/infiniteintensity.html I've been training this style for several years and now saw a report that the German swim team are doing exactly these type of exercises and were really exhausted doing them.
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    You guys, I know lots about swimming. David Marsh, Frank Busch. Chicago Cubs. Doctor Kip. I trust Doctor Kip because he is a Doctor. I know many famous people. I will now allude to my personal injury history with weight lifting. This ought to convince you that I know more than you, even though I get injured so much you might wonder if I even know how to control my own body. David Marsh Frank Busch Doctor Kip Chicago Cubs. That's nice, Paul.
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    Slowly but surely, over time, every sport that currently shuns heavy lifting will embrace it. Sprinters used to shun it, basketball players used to shun it, baseball players shunned it, swimmers used to shun it, eventually, everybody embraces what has pretty much become the universal "best way" to weight train: Heavy weight, compound exercises (bench being the most obvious upper body compound exercise) and plenty of rest. History of injuries etc. is one thing and naturally any lifting program should be adjusted for individual cases. But let's not forget the OPs situation which seems like that of a young person with no lifting experience.
  • too bad we can't grow taller in the gym You can if you improve your posture. This especially true in the water where posture is critical.
  • I ain't going from 5'8" to 6'8" :) sadly I'm going the other direction! Last comment on this and will move along to alienate some other folks! Bottom line is i'm an advocate of strength training and specifically Olympic style lifts that the various clubs/coaches I have mentioned whilst "name dropping" to impress Jazz have advocated for some time (dead lifts, squats, clean and press) along with core strength training/bodyweight exercises: Check some of these out: 1) My favorite form of strength training for swimming: Frank Busch talks about Power Towers - YouTube 2) Swim MAC: www.floswimming.org/.../168850-swim-mac-sprint-group-workout 3) Auburn: www.floswimming.org/.../13335-auburn-weight-workout-part-1 4) Auburn: www.floswimming.org/.../65799-chain-workout-auburn 5) Arizona: www.floswimming.org/.../185641-dryland-in-the-desert 6) The Race Club: www.floswimming.org/.../10278-stations-race-club Thus concludes my name dropping for the day!
  • You can if you improve your posture. This especially true in the water where posture is critical. I started yoga and hope this might improve my posture and help streamline my spine (mahamudra ). I noticed from video the primary and secondary curves my spine make while swimming are killing me so for now on I'm going to make a conscious effort to stop. Unfortunately though, lengthening the spine causes a reduction of breath volume
  • From Dr. Kip "If one is going to bench press, it should be with dumbbells, not barbells." The thing that concerns me about doing bench with dumbbells is putting them on the ground on completion of the set. This, to me, seems like where the shoulders could be injured.
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    too bad we can't grow taller in the gym
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    You can if you improve your posture. This especially true in the water where posture is critical. I ain't going from 5'8" to 6'8" :)
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