SCM Championships

According to the Trout's website, the St Nick's meet scheduled for Dec. 17th. But they have the meet listed as "SCY" I hope that is a typo for the format. They won't be able to hold it at Georgia Tech, though, because the "Duel in the Pool" is scheduled for that day. On the Georgia Masters website, it is still TBA.

I am not aware of any facilities that have two 25scm pools but doubt that even a national championship would draw over a 1000 swimmers. I think Long Beach had close to 800 in recent years...spread that over 4 days and you have a very manageable meet. Long course facilities with moveable bulkheads can be configured as two 25m courses. Federal Way is one such facility.

Yes, but only if it was held in, say early December or early January at the earliest. Some of us take a forced (pool closure) break in Aug/Sep, and so having it too early would make it tough. One downside - lack of decent SCM facilities - you'd need 2x 25m courses, plus additional w/up space.

By at capacity, do you mean the BU facility? If the meet was extended an extra day (like a National Champs) that would spread the events out more. What is stopping GBM from doing it right now? I would imagine running a meet as a national championship requires more work than as an LMSC championship. There will need to be a significant return, and I am not at all sure that there would be. Two national championships a year is plenty, IMO; does USA-S do more? But I wouldn't mind them running the spring meet as SCM every once in awhile. There would proly be a spate of WRs.

I voted yes! :agree: I agree with Fort; there isn't much going on in SCM on the east coast. In the Atlanta area, there is only one SCM meet to compete in (St. Nick's) and that one may not even happen this year, because of difficulties getting it date scheduled. According to the Trout's website, the St Nick's meet scheduled for Dec. 17th. But they have the meet listed as "SCY" I hope that is a typo for the format.

What is stopping GBM from doing it right now? I would imagine running a meet as a national championship requires more work than as an LMSC championship. There will need to be a significant return, and I am not at all sure that there would be. Two national championships a year is plenty, IMO; does USA-S do more? But I wouldn't mind them running the spring meet as SCM every once in awhile. There would proly be a spate of WRs. Chris, a well run meet with 1000 swimmers should be able to net over $20,000...I consider that significant. I'm glad that to is plenty for you...3 doesn't "hurt" anyone and simply gives our membership one more option to attend a national championship at a time of year that maybe works better than spring or summer. Plus...you can't set world records in SCY so we have more opportunities to match up against other countries around the world.

I am not aware of any facilities that have two 25scm pools but doubt that even a national championship would draw over a 1000 swimmers. I think Long Beach had close to 800 in recent years...spread that over 4 days and you have a very manageable meet. Scheduling is everything. Dozens of heats of 200m fly, 400 IM, 800/1500 can make for a very, very long meet with only one course. Host it and I will come.

Chris, a well run meet with 1000 swimmers should be able to net over $20,000...I consider that significant. I'm glad that to is plenty for you...3 doesn't "hurt" anyone and simply gives our membership one more option to attend a national championship at a time of year that maybe works better than spring or summer. Plus...you can't set world records in SCY so we have more opportunities to match up against other countries around the world. Sure, but the question is whether the extra swimmers they may get by declaring it a national championship is worth the extra hassle. You've seen the packets people have to submit just to make a bid for nationals...it isn't trivial. There are extra hoops to jump thru when you run a national championship meet that aren't there when you run a "regular" meet. I guess my point is that this isn't a slam-dunk decision. No one knows exactly what the "market" is for a national championship meet in December, and since the NE meet is already at capacity, the payoff isn't clear. Even if they could add another day, that doesn't mean they can handle 33% more swimmers; the meet already ends pretty late. For example: last year the NE meet was also a zone championship; I don't think there were any more swimmers than the year before, when it wasn't (it certainly didn't SEEM so from my perspective as a participant, but I don't have the numbers handy). Agree that a SCM national championship would be cool for the international aspects; that's why I think a spring nationals meet (which I bet has the prospect of better attendance than a meet in either Aug or Dec) would be nice if run in a SCM course. When can we expect a bid from Mesa?

Long course facilities with moveable bulkheads can be configured as two 25m courses. Federal Way is one such facility. That one gets my vote as well!!

I don't think we really know how successful a SCM Nationals would be until 'we' try it. If it turns out to be a flop no one will bid and the idea will die a natural death. It is certainly worth a try, but I suspect a natural death is what would happen. If it was October, I would consider going. I am not really excited to travel to northeast ever but especially not November through March (it's been awhile since I drove in snow...turn in to the skid right?). Chris' idea of occasional short course meters at spring nationals is best.