Nationals Kudos

Kurt Dickson 2 months ago

Thank you to all volunteers and officials for (as always) a well run meet.

Also,

Congratulations to:

Mixed 400 Free Relay of Jackson Wang, Bobby Savulich, Naoko Watanabe, and Laureen Welting

50 Breast: Angie Griffin

100 IM: Maureen Rea

50 Free: Jennifer Brooks Crozier

100 Breast: Cissy Cochran

100 Free: Sonja Skinner

Nobody else cares, but I do.

Top Replies

Paul Smith 2 months ago +8

Kurt, thanks for acknowledging the rightful national champions who sadly took 2nd place in all those events due to USMS refusal to respect and protect womens sports.
9ZMPV 2 months ago +8

Thanks Kurt for bringing this to our attention. XY will never = XX Regardless if this person did a year of hormone replacement therapy or whatever, they will always have massive advantages over women!…
Angie Griffin 2 months ago in reply to WSU35 +8

All the women (all 50+ of us) need to by filing protests along with the men & women in the Mixed relays affected by this. No more of this!!!!

Angie Griffin 2 months ago in reply to ourswimmer

Get a grip? Does it matter if 10th place was fast or not? No. It matters in points at the meet, it matters to the person racing. It matters when you miss a medal ot a place. It matters when you tain and shell out money to an organization you had trust and faith in. IT ALL MATTERS.
ourswimmer 2 months ago in reply to Angie Griffin

The assertion was that fast trans women are so numerous that they "HIGHLY affect NQTs." That assertion is ridiculous.

I also have quite a bit of competitive experience, so you don't need to explain to me what does and doesn't matter in competition. We just have different priorities.

As I noted above, if this particular swimmer at 2025 SCY Nationals didn't satisfy USMS's policy, she'll be retroactively DQ'd because of a successful eligibility protest. If she did satisfy USMS's policy but people think that policy should change, they can advocate for a policy they think will be better.
sarah tyler 2 months ago in reply to ourswimmer

Okay. I was wondering if because the swimmer's results are listed on the USMS website for a number of years if this was already dealt with. The listing is a fact so perhaps there is some history I am not aware of.
sarah tyler 2 months ago in reply to Kyle Deery

is USMS aware the swimmer swam in numerous meets in 2010,etc.
ourswimmer 2 months ago in reply to sarah tyler

She could have been confirmed eligible in the past, but it also could just be that nobody ever challenged her until now.
005AX 2 months ago in reply to ourswimmer

What about all the other events/meets in which this swimmer has competed over a number of years? Why should those results stand?
sarah tyler 2 months ago in reply to 005AX

yes, It would be helpful to have a representative of the administration give some guidance as to who to connect with.

Many of us who were not in the age group etc. are evidently shut out of the application for complaint form Kurt so quickly found and shared.
sarah tyler 2 months ago in reply to 9ZMPV

I agree. Money talks. I hope USMS administration is open to folks opinions that don't agree with policy. I really have difficulty with the concept, and documentation that this person swam in 2010, 2011 and 2012, a lot, and evidently not a whisper. A tough situation that needs a judicous outcome.
005AX 2 months ago in reply to sarah tyler

According to the USMS Individual Results Tables - 2009 to 2012 as Hannah, then 2021 to present day as Ana.
005AX 2 months ago in reply to ourswimmer

It only needs one very fast one to skew the NQTs.