USMS vs USA Swimming

Hi!

Times achieved by USMS members at meets sanctioned by USA Swimming will be counted towards their own times and also be eligible for Top 10/All Star recognition. The associated section of the USMS rulebook is 202.3.

For times achieved by USA swimming members at USMS sanctioned meets, the results will not be recognized by USA Swimming. This is due to specific rules within the USMS rulebook that deviate from USA Swimming's rulebook.

- Carter

There are ways to have times at a USMS meet count for USA Swimming. It can be complicated and the process depends on what LMSC/LSC you’re in. For example, USMS Nationals are usually set up as USAS Observed meets meaning anyone who wants their time to count for USAS can then request their swim be observed according to USAS rules  We usually have about a dozen requests at each Nationals. But it can be done for local meets too if it’s important enough. 

There are ways to have times at a USMS meet count for USA Swimming. It can be complicated and the process depends on what LMSC/LSC you’re in. For example, USMS Nationals are usually set up as USAS Observed meets meaning anyone who wants their time to count for USAS can then request their swim be observed according to USAS rules  We usually have about a dozen requests at each Nationals. But it can be done for local meets too if it’s important enough. 

Good to know, thank you! I am usually at Nationals, so this will come in handy!

Who do I need to talk to at Nationals about doing this? Thank you again!

From the meet information...

Swimmers wishing to have times entered into SWIMS (USA Swimming’s times database) must complete a form, obtained from the administrative referee at the meet, prior to the swim.