Workouts to improve breaststroke sprints

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Hey outthere, I'm a 16yrs old youth and I'm currently working on some workouts to help me improving my time on 50m ***. Regardless of some people warning me about it, I am selfcoaching and it seems to work as I cut off my 50 *** time by at least 15 secs. (I started with 1:08s in early Dec and just reached the 52,5secs yesterday) As I usually go to the pool twice a week I would like to create a set of 4 different workouts with different focuses (endurance, sprint, technique e.g.) to avoid a routine and continue on going down the time ladder. I already made up two workouts but also they seem to work as I can complete them fairly well if some on really knows some thing about the subject could have a look over them for me and correct them as nessacary and also help me with the rest of the workouts. Btw I recently read that doing a lot of breaststroke isn't that good for the knees. Is that right? Does it mean that I should do less breaststroke in my workouts? Thanks for ya help Matthias
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    I don't have this problem. I guess it's because my hips don't move that much when I swim underwater. Should work on that ;)
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    Originally posted by ljodpundari I took a look at Wayne's article "Rethinking Sprint *** Stroke", and I have a question. You mention swimming 25m under water as one of the drills. I can do this, but only if I keep pushing myself down with the pulls. (I can also stay down if exhale as much as I can before starting, but then of course I can't get to the other end.) And I have seen other references to swimming underwater just using breaststroke kick, but I float to the surface within 10 meters or so. How do you all manage this? I also can't swim underwater. It takes so much energy for me tostay under that I don't do this type of drill. Are you very tall. Most men can't float except those of us who are very tall & lean.
  • Congratulations on lowering your time, you still have a lot of room for improvement. You've got make excellent form a habit so you can do it without thinking. Meanwhile do some fast swims with great form. Don't give up form to try to go faster. You might want to video tape yourself. Is that 50 Long course meters or short course meters? Ande Originally posted by Matthias Yeah I know. But even after working hard on a certain focus point in training I find it quite difficult to implement it to my race pace breaststroke instead of falling back to the old ugly stroke after a few meters. Nevertheless I set my PB down to 48secs in first week of january. What a good start into the new year :D brgds Matthias
  • congratulations on dropping 15 seconds at 52.5 you still have a lot of room to improve Your biggest improvements are going to come from improving your breastroke technique and timing. Learning how and when to move your head, arms, torso and legs makes all the difference. I believe one the most important part of BR Str is the kick followed by a glide. The key to the kick is you want your arms to be out front and streamlined and your body to be level like when you push off the wall. RIDE THE GLIDE concentrate on learning perfect technique, do some speed work, and some strength work keep us posted on your improvements, Ande Rasmussen Austin, TX www.usms.org/.../toptenind.php Good luck
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    Originally posted by ande Congratulations on lowering your time, you still have a lot of room for improvement. I hope so. My goal is to get my time down the lower 40s, even a high 30 if possible. Originally posted by ande Is that 50 Long course meters or short course meters? It's a short course meters. I guess I could also gain some time by working on my turns. But actually I could focus on everything in my swimming as my strokes aren't that good. Brgds Matthias
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    Originally posted by ande Your biggest improvements are going to come from improving your breastroke technique and timing. Yeah I know. But even after working hard on a certain focus point in training I find it quite difficult to implement it to my race pace breaststroke instead of falling back to the old ugly stroke after a few meters. Nevertheless I set my PB down to 48secs in first week of january. What a good start into the new year :D brgds Matthias
  • today Lainey my masters coach told me that Brendan Hanson does some kicking sets on a kick board with a pull buoy between his thighs to remind himself to keep his thighs together while he's kicking breastroke ande
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    As a breasstroke sprint, there are a few keys to quick sprinting that I think are important. The first is to stay loose. Especially in the groin! I have pulled my groin twice and its always a long road back. But I think it's very important to be loose because you want to have a quick but powerful turn over. You want every kick to be powerful and furious, but you want to recoil your legs back just as quickly. Secondly, it is extremely important in *** that no matter how quick your turnover and kick rates are, you make sure you are completing the stroke. with every kick work on making sure you are lunging forward with your upper body, shooting your hands forward near or through the surface of the water, and allowing you neck and head to completely reach a position where you are naturally looking at the bottom of the pool. Only once you are in a complete stretched out glide position should you begin your pull and recoil. However, this should be done at a fast rate none the less. With practice and lactic acid tolerance, you will speed up.
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    I have a terrible tiem with *** stroke. I've tried allof theses drills & nothing improves. It takes so much engery to get my body moving for *** that I get so tired by 50 yds I can barely move. Oddly, I don't have this problem with fly. I can't swim *** underwater. Has anyone ever overcoem an inablility to swim under water? I can float in about a half foot of water but can't swim to the bottom of a pool withjout nearly killing myself.
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    Originally posted by breastroker The transition from pulldown to the first stroke which breaks the surface is the single most important stroke of the 50 race. I have learned not to breathe on that stroke, instead concentrating on this transition and moving forwards. I have seen too many swimmers breathe wrong and loose a full second on this stroke alone. ......! Just make sure some part of your head comes above the waters surface during the stroke. It only needs to be a tuft of hair! Hi ,Wayne. Please clarify me that do you mean it's Ok to let just PART of your head comes above the surface during the stroke? ref FINA's rule QTE SW 7.7 During each complete cycle of one arm stroke and one leg kick, in that order, SOME PART of the swimmer's HEAD shall break the surface of the water, except that after the start and after each turn the swimmer may take one arm stroke completely back to the legs and one leg kick while wholly submerged. THE HEAD must break the surface of the water before the hands turn inward at the widest part of the second stroke. UNQTE So if part of the head is allowed, what will you suggest the hight of the head to the SURFACE? goggle? somewhere between goggle and ear? or even ear? Thank you for your help.