The Butterfly Lane

I wanna do this! A bit off the subject, but I have to ask ya, swimflyfast, why haven't you joined the Butternuts? :banana: www.grinswim.org/.../butternuts.html

I have gone thru a 1,ooo fly with the long glide getting me further with each stoke and saving energy.

Great... keep going.. it is very satisfying to swim a mile! make sure you don't glide too much as gliding to a stop is not such a good idea as you will have to regain momentum on each stroke. Swim relaxed knowing very few have accomplished what you have done! There is little difference between 1,000 and 1650.. really.. its a head game between those two distances.

I have gone thru a 1,ooo fly with the long glide getting me further with each stoke and saving energy. I'm definitely a sprinter. the shorter the better, but the overtraining will definitely help the back half of my 100 fly and saving me the embarrassment of the ever looming piano on the back in the 200 fly.

You could do it, no problem! :agree: I looked you up; you're ranked #20 in the men's 50-54 age group for 200 fly, I am 54 and ranked near the bottom. Add that to being a former TOS sufferer who had a first rib resection (I know you know what that is!), and I am a very unlikely candidate to qualify as a Butternut. Take a look at my fly video, and you will also see I have a very long way to go before I nail down a decent fly stroke. I'm definitely a sprinter. the shorter the better, but the overtraining will definitely help the back half of my 100 fly and saving me the embarrassment of the ever looming piano on the back in the 200 fly. I qualified for Butternuts several times though. My first was 900 (my husband stopped me out of fear for my shoulders), my second was 2000 (I convinced my husband to let me go as long as it didn't hurt, but the camera card was full AND the battery died), and my third was 1000 for a challenge on this thread. I have also done a few 500's, but I didn't send them in, because they were unsupervised and undocumented. The key is this: GLIDE! Don't swim it like you race the 200. Take it slow and easy, and glide as long as you can. Stay relaxed! If I can do it, any 200 flyer can do it! Go for it, Evan, and let us know how you did. :cheerleader: I'm definitely a sprinter. the shorter the better, but the overtraining will definitely help the back half of my 100 fly and saving me the embarrassment of the ever looming piano on the back in the 200 fly. :drowning:

The key is this: GLIDE! Don't swim it like you race the 200. Take it slow and easy, and glide as long as you can. Stay relaxed! I have to take it slow and easy to make a timing pad touch in a 50 LCM fly

I have to take it slow and easy to make a timing pad touch in a 50 LCM fly Will you be at the UGA meet on June 4? If so, I'll see you there-- and cheer you on in 50 fly if you race it! :cheerleader:

You need to limit your undulation that you are doing --- no piking at your hips so much, so that there isn't a dive down with the hands. The hands of the best flyers (Sjostrom, Phelps, LeClos) are soft on entry and the last thing to enter the water. Hey, Doc, I want to thank you for saying the hands are the LAST thing to enter the water. I can't tell you how many times I have heard to "land with soft hands!" I tried to concentrate on getting my arms around and not crashing my hands, but the emphasis was always the hands. I have never heard that the hands should be the last thing to enter the water, so I always thought the entire arm/hand unit should enter simultaneously. Changing my thinking and concentrating on the upper arms landing first has helped, I think. If nothing else, I'm not throwing a lot of water forward like I used to do in the past! It also helped when you told me, "...no piking at your hips so much." Again, it changed the way I thought about my movement. I had been trying so hard to get down that dolphin undulation that I overdid it. My stroke is still far from where I want it to be, but I think this is an improvement: www.youtube.com/watch Doc, thanks so much for your helpful prescription! I think I'm on my way to a cure. :D

Will you be at the UGA meet on June 4? If so, I'll see you there-- and cheer you on in 50 fly if you race it! :cheerleader:I wish I could make it Elaine, have weekend warrior June 4/5. I do plan on going to Greenville though, June 17-19

I wish I could make it Elaine, have weekend warrior June 4/5. I do plan on going to Greenville though, June 17-19 Darn. I won't be able to go to that meet, but good luck to you! :cheerleader: