The Butterfly Lane

I'm planning to swim the 200 LCM *** this summer to see if I can steal a top 10. No one from the mainland will be able to drive to LCM Nationals so I'm guessing attendance will be lower than usual and LCM top tens will be easier to get than they were last year. Also, it's been 4 years since I last swam the 200 SCM ***... might have to swim that in the fall in case enough of the fast breaststrokers are afraid to swim it... seriously, how funny would it be if I manage to get a breaststroke top ten? I started swimming some breaststroke a year ago when I thought my shoulder problems were going to keep me from swimming fly. While I didn't get top 10, I was in the top 15 and in the top 10 at nationals. I think it has a lot in common with fly since I really don't train much breaststroke.

I cant believe the butterfly lane is getting their a$$ kicked by the breaststroke lane. They have 2,000 more views and here I thought that was the evil stroke. Time for the fliers to catch up, we cant let breaststrokers beat us! Butterfly does not require endless commentary and analysis and sob stories, it stands on its own merits. Butterfliers are the toughest swimmers around and everyone knows it. End of story.

I started swimming some breaststroke a year ago when I thought my shoulder problems were going to keep me from swimming fly. While I didn't get top 10, I was in the top 15 and in the top 10 at nationals. I think it has a lot in common with fly since I really don't train much breaststroke. The sad thing is that I could have place higher in the 200 LCM *** at Indy Nationals than the 9th place I got in the 100 fly. Yeah, next Nationals I do, I might do the 200 *** instead and just use the 100 fly split from my 200 fly or 400 IM. They are all about the same times anyway.

Butterfly does not require endless commentary and analysis and sob stories, it stands on its own merits. Butterfliers are the toughest swimmers around and everyone knows it. End of story. You mean butterfliers who do the 200 fly. I don't think that you can really call yourself a butterflier unless you do the 200 fly. Otherwise, you are just a sprinter. :2cents:

You mean butterfliers who do the 200 fly. I don't think that you can really call yourself a butterflier unless you do the 200 fly. Otherwise, you are just a sprinter. :2cents: I actually think the 100 fly is a very good test for folks. I had to swim the 200 fly at every meet in college and I never, ever enjoyed it. The piano always fell on the 3rd 50. I'm planning to tackle it soon as a masters swimmer, on my own terms, and plan to make peace with it. As an aside, I started swimming more *** after realizing that in a 200 IM, a fellow competitor that got 5th at nats that year and I stayed even on the *** leg. So I dabble in ***, in IM's and in mid distance free. It's more interesting to swim more things - why limit yourself? *** and fly do have much in common - they are both short axis strokes and take more energy to swim than back and free.

I actually think the 100 fly is a very good test for folks. I had to swim the 200 fly at every meet in college and I never, ever enjoyed it. The piano always fell on the 3rd 50. I'm planning to tackle it soon as a masters swimmer, on my own terms, and plan to make peace with it. As an aside, I started swimming more *** after realizing that in a 200 IM, a fellow competitor that got 5th at nats that year and I stayed even on the *** leg. So I dabble in ***, in IM's and in mid distance free. It's more interesting to swim more things - why limit yourself? *** and fly do have much in common - they are both short axis strokes and take more energy to swim than back and free. *** and fly have alot in common but it is weird how people are fly/backstrokers or back/breaststrokers. I finally met some fly/breaststrokers and felt like I saw the ocean part or something. I swim the 200 back and breastroke to help out my IMs. I haven't had the desire to do a 100 back lately. The breaststroke is just a fun/no pressure event for me.

I don't think that you can really call yourself a butterflier unless you do the 200 fly. Otherwise, you are just a sprinter. :2cents: Seriously?! And the 100 fly is a "sprint"? That's an endurance event, dude. :D If you can do a good 100 fly, you are not just a sprinter. :2cents: 50 fly question: Does anyone do this as a no breather? Pros and cons?

The breaststroke is just a fun/no pressure event for me. Same here.

I actually think the 100 fly is a very good test for folks. I had to swim the 200 fly at every meet in college and I never, ever enjoyed it. The piano always fell on the 3rd 50. I'm planning to tackle it soon as a masters swimmer, on my own terms, and plan to make peace with it. I made a solemn promise to myself, as I turned on the last 50 of my last 200 fly in college, that if I would finish with all I could manage - I would never swim another 200 fly. I feel like I owe it to myself to keep that promise. The 100 is plenty far for me.

I made a solemn promise to myself, as I turned on the last 50 of my last 200 fly in college, that if I would finish with all I could manage - I would never swim another 200 fly. I feel like I owe it to myself to keep that promise. The 100 is plenty far for me. I can understand that completely. I have taken a :05 - :10 break at the 3rd turn on my first 100 fly as a master - and finished 2nd and got the team points I was going for. I'm in far better shape now, but my first 200 fly might vary well resemble 8 x 25 with :05 - :10 - and I think that's fine. I really enjoy being able to pick what races I want to swim and approach them in the way that I want to. I also saw someone set a state record in the 200 fly after taking a :15 pause at the 150. He finished. Legally. In college I swam the 100 & 200 fly and 500 free pretty much every duel meet, with the 200 free, 1650 free or 400 IM mixed in at other times. I still haven't done a 1650 in a race. I plan to though, as I'm doing the checkoff challenge this year.