The Butterfly Lane

Worst get-out swim of all time? It's got my vote. Yep.

Two kicks -- both the same size or 1st larger than the 2nd?

Saw this on SwimSwam. Anyone want to try to match it? swimswam.com/.../ Worst get-out swim of all time? It's got my vote.

Hey, Butternuts and other flyers! I have been trying to work on my fly technique, mostly concentrating on two things: 1. Taking James' advice to get my hands closer together on the pull. 2. Reduce the amount of splash and bow wave on recovery. Here are two videos; I would welcome any/all constructive criticism. I know my kick still needs a lot of oooomph, but, right now, my emphasis is on correcting the pull first: http://youtu.be/U_pYGBfJm5s (Side view) http://youtu.be/MtVbYRYA6nA (Front view) I will posting videos of my other strokes on the other lanes, so please feel free to critique those, as well. Thank you very much! And, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :chug:

Hey, Butternuts and other flyers! I have been trying to work on my fly technique, mostly concentrating on two things: 1. Taking James' advice to get my hands closer together on the pull. 2. Reduce the amount of splash and bow wave on recovery. Here are two videos; I would welcome any/all constructive criticism. I know my kick still needs a lot of oooomph, but, right now, my emphasis is on correcting the pull first: http://youtu.be/U_pYGBfJm5s (Side view) http://youtu.be/MtVbYRYA6nA (Front view) I will posting videos of my other strokes on the other lanes, so please feel free to critique those, as well. Thank you very much! And, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :chug: Your fly is looking better! Your head and shoulders seem to dive down with each stroke. Instead of diving down, try focusing on reaching forward.

Your fly is looking better! Your head and shoulders seem to dive down with each stroke. Instead of diving down, try focusing on reaching forward. Thanks, That Guy! :bliss:I can't seem to get that reaching forward thing. I thought I was reaching forward, really reaching forward with my arms before starting the pull. But, instead, I'm diving down. Uggghhh...:badday: So, is there a drill for that or anything you can recommend? I'm at a loss on this one. Happy New Year, T.G.! :chug:

When I visually rehearse fly I dive down as well. Next time I shall focus on forward momentum. Elaine, your kick is a solid, steady beat, I wish I had rhythm like that. My fly is like: kick-kick, kick, kick-kick, splash kick,

Recently I went to a butterfly clinic and the speaker talked about thinking about landing your hands on the water rather than entering the water. I use a one armed butterfly stroke drill where I land my hand on the water, but let my back and head go limp so that gravity will sink them below my hand. As my lungs start to push my upper body back up I start the pull and breathe to the side. Try this, it works well with the group I coach.

Two kicks -- both the same size or 1st larger than the 2nd? Yes.That may seem a flippant response,but it really depends.Some coaches say both kicks equal,but most swimmers don't achieve that and maybe shouldn't try.YMMV

Two kicks -- both the same size or 1st larger than the 2nd? I thought about this quite a bit this year and decided that when I was sprinting I did not have enough time to get in a full second kick. I had to make it quick and a small. For intermediate distance with a little less speed, I might try to get the second kick a little more pronounced, if I don't mind running out of oxygen. When I swim long distance I only use one kick to save oxygen as I find my arms are a better use of oxygen for the amount of forward propulsion. But this could certainly differ from swimmer to swmimmer. That Guy has me wondering about changing this approach for long distance. For me, it all depends on how soon you want to run out of oxygen, and where you think your propulsion should come from for a certain distance. In other words, it is your decision. That's the fun part of experimenting with butterfly.