The Butterfly Lane

Butterfly, beautiful to watch, difficult to train. We SDK off every wall. We're most likely to smack hands with each other and those beside us. Fly's fun to sprint but no fun when the piano comes down What did you do in practice today? the breastroke lane The Middle Distance Lane The Backstroke Lane The Butterfly Lane The SDK Lane The Taper Lane The Distance Lane The IM Lane The Sprint Free Lane The Pool Deck
  • I've posted some long fly sets, and some medium fly sets, so here's a short one that I swam today. I'm tapering for NW LCM Zones so I'm pushing myself to swim at race pace every workout. 100 fly on 4:00 (went 1:06) 75 fly on 3:00 (went 47) 50 fly on 2:00 (went 29) 25 fly AFAP (went 13) As you can see, I didn't really get to race pace until the 50. I've got room for improvement, but it wasn't bad. I will encounter and get through the "dead spot" in my taper within the next 7-10 days and then nail this set.
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    Finally, That Guy, this is what I did. Downgraded lane, even downgraded coach :) Allowed me to do (long course meter): 400 @ 50m Free / 50m Fly 300 Fly 200 kick 100 pull 4x200 Fly (aerobic) with 30sec rest (was probably holding 3:45, not any faster, following some breaststrokers) 4x100 Free descending 1-4 30s rest 4x50 Fly descending 1-4 30s rest (last one in 35 flat, happy with this) No board (even on the kick) My goal in performing this volume of fly was to work on a specific thing. Making sure that my bum was breaking the surface on every down beat of the first kick. I tend to neglect kicking at slower speed. I worked on Phelps splashless entries too, but that I always do anyway while performing base mileage at my favorite stroke.
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    Anyone one got a workokout that can help me out, I wanna cut 20 seconds off my 100 fly lol, my best time is 1:26
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    100 fly on 4:00 (went 1:06) 75 fly on 3:00 (went 47) 50 fly on 2:00 (went 29) 25 fly AFAP (went 13) Very well designed simple set. If you got it during a master swimmer club swim, then you should feel blessed to have a master swimmer coach capable of calibrating race pace intervals. A lot of them don't seem to understand the concept of "fast swimming calls for longer rest". Well it's at least the case for the 2 coaches leading the two different clubs where I sometimes train. But I bet you were alone :D
  • Good stuff. You gotta start somewhere. Sounds like you have good speed to build on.
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    Anyone one got a workokout that can help me out, I wanna cut 20 seconds off my 100 fly lol, my best time is 1:26 How many fast 100s do you perform per week? And for how long have you been doing it?
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    so i found out by not touching fly (or the pool really for that matter) for about 4 1/2 years... my fly has suddenly smoothed out and i now have an upbeat in my kick. weird. yesterday i decided to do my first fly 'set'... if you could call it that? did 4x25 on the 45. looks like i went between 14-16 on all of them from a push. anyways, my first day of attempting to do butterfly was good i guess. i'll keep building until im able to hold form through a 50 again.
  • Update: After a trip out of town and no swimming, I went back to Kits pool (yes, it IS a great place to visit, do come!) and tried my luck swimming fly again. Managed to do 8 x 137.50m of fly with 10-15 second intervals. Time was roughly 20-25 minutes. I wasn't keeping track of the speed so much as whether I could swum the set without stopping. It really hit home that fly is really about the core undulation and keeping the hips high. On that basis, I decided to enter a local 1 km lake swim this Thursday and also a 3km race on August 14th. I'm pretty excited!!!!! Waitjustaminutehere, are you implying that you're going to swim FLY in those OW races? :notworthy: Regardless, I need to visit that pool. I only live around 3 hours away... I've visited Vancouver twice and have never swum there :sad:
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    Update: After a trip out of town and no swimming, I went back to Kits pool (yes, it IS a great place to visit, do come!) and tried my luck swimming fly again. Managed to do 8 x 137.50m of fly with 10-15 second intervals. Time was roughly 20-25 minutes. I wasn't keeping track of the speed so much as whether I could swum the set without stopping. It really hit home that fly is really about the core undulation and keeping the hips high. On that basis, I decided to enter a local 1 km lake swim this Thursday and also a 3km race on August 14th. I'm pretty excited!!!!!
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    Yep, that's the plan. We'll see if I need to do a little breaststroke now and then to rest my neck. But hopefully not. I read the article on Tom's approach. Very cool. I need to know if his breaching photo in the article is with or without fins (!). I once saw a swimmer in Florida (Coral Springs) launching himself up to his knees/maybe shins without fins and was pretty impressed. And I have seen near full breaches by finswimmers and freedivers. It's like the holy grail for some of us to be able to do that without help from a wave (punching out the back of it). With the focus on the soles of the feet part of the undulation I'm encouraged...ie. the dolphin debutante. :angel: