coachsci.sdsu.edu/.../ultra40a.pdf
There is a method, which is referred to as the Rushall method which Michael Andrew uses.
Was wondering if you had any critique about this. If this sort of training is a good idea and what are the problems.
Would this also be good for longer events? Like the 400 IM?
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Where Does Andrews go from here? He is a 6'4'' 180 pound 14 year old? He swims anaerobic 25s and 50s at practice totaling 1500 yards. What does every top coach for the last 40 years talk about. You can go down in distance but not up. Spitz held the world record in the mile, did he ever swim the mile in the olympics? No. Remember that great american sprinter in the 80s Tom Jager, he also started out swimming distance.
I understand this kid also swims a very fast 400 IM. There are a lot of really good 400 IM short course yards swimmers that are under 16. Can they swim it successfully internationally and long course? Can they continue to improve in it as they age (Vendt, Phelps, Lochte, Clary)? You think those 4 guys were swimming practices of 1500 yards comprised of 25 sprints when they were 14?
Andrews- Is going to be remembered as the fastest 12-17 year old ever. Unless he grows to be 6'10'', this kid will level off and his peers will catch him. Especially those last 20 meters in a long course 100, LOL!. There are other energy systems after 30 seconds of effort... try tapping into them.
Research- Yes there is research that states prolonged intense anaerobic training is harmful to children- 12 and 13 year olds are children. Dont believe me... ask Jonty Skinner.
You want to train like this for a 1500.... do it. Let me know how it goes. Actually let Ous, Sun Yang, Connor, Park, Cochrane and Angel know. This way they can change their training and really go fast.
I think the whole point is that this challenges the kind of conventional wisdom that you've described. Would Usain Bolt have been better off starting off running 10ks and working down? No. He's a sprinter.
As for Michael Andrews - he'll hit his peak when his stroke is as efficient/effective as it can be, his starts and turns are as good as they can be, and he's as powerful as he can be. On that basis, I'd imagine that he has a long way to go yet, even if the gains over time are marginal...
Where Does Andrews go from here? He is a 6'4'' 180 pound 14 year old? He swims anaerobic 25s and 50s at practice totaling 1500 yards. What does every top coach for the last 40 years talk about. You can go down in distance but not up. Spitz held the world record in the mile, did he ever swim the mile in the olympics? No. Remember that great american sprinter in the 80s Tom Jager, he also started out swimming distance.
I understand this kid also swims a very fast 400 IM. There are a lot of really good 400 IM short course yards swimmers that are under 16. Can they swim it successfully internationally and long course? Can they continue to improve in it as they age (Vendt, Phelps, Lochte, Clary)? You think those 4 guys were swimming practices of 1500 yards comprised of 25 sprints when they were 14?
Andrews- Is going to be remembered as the fastest 12-17 year old ever. Unless he grows to be 6'10'', this kid will level off and his peers will catch him. Especially those last 20 meters in a long course 100, LOL!. There are other energy systems after 30 seconds of effort... try tapping into them.
Research- Yes there is research that states prolonged intense anaerobic training is harmful to children- 12 and 13 year olds are children. Dont believe me... ask Jonty Skinner.
You want to train like this for a 1500.... do it. Let me know how it goes. Actually let Ous, Sun Yang, Connor, Park, Cochrane and Angel know. This way they can change their training and really go fast.
I think the whole point is that this challenges the kind of conventional wisdom that you've described. Would Usain Bolt have been better off starting off running 10ks and working down? No. He's a sprinter.
As for Michael Andrews - he'll hit his peak when his stroke is as efficient/effective as it can be, his starts and turns are as good as they can be, and he's as powerful as he can be. On that basis, I'd imagine that he has a long way to go yet, even if the gains over time are marginal...