Ultra Short Training At Race Pace

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coachsci.sdsu.edu/.../ultra40a.pdf There is a method, which is referred to as the Rushall method which Michael Andrew uses. Was wondering if you had any critique about this. If this sort of training is a good idea and what are the problems. Would this also be good for longer events? Like the 400 IM? Thanks!
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  • Ok, I have a 100 ft pool. I am training for the 50 and 100. Today I did 1 length all out on 1:30. I was getting 90 seconds rest and could only hold 20 sec or better for 10 before complete meltdown. According to rushall I should be getting 20 sec rest? If so, my fast swimming would degrade from 20 sec to 25 to 30 sec and no longer swimming fast. How can you swim fast on such little rest to work? Maybe 25 yds in say 15 sec would be way different with 30 sec rest than the 33yds. Rushall only deals with race pace swimming, not AFAP swimming. To the extent he even addresses AFAP work, he concedes that you need more rest. I don't think Rushall's sets are really designed for masters sprinters. The 50 set he specifies for 100s is impossible. I occasionally do a version of his 25 set for 100s, but like That Guy, I take more rest than :20.
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  • Ok, I have a 100 ft pool. I am training for the 50 and 100. Today I did 1 length all out on 1:30. I was getting 90 seconds rest and could only hold 20 sec or better for 10 before complete meltdown. According to rushall I should be getting 20 sec rest? If so, my fast swimming would degrade from 20 sec to 25 to 30 sec and no longer swimming fast. How can you swim fast on such little rest to work? Maybe 25 yds in say 15 sec would be way different with 30 sec rest than the 33yds. Rushall only deals with race pace swimming, not AFAP swimming. To the extent he even addresses AFAP work, he concedes that you need more rest. I don't think Rushall's sets are really designed for masters sprinters. The 50 set he specifies for 100s is impossible. I occasionally do a version of his 25 set for 100s, but like That Guy, I take more rest than :20.
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