New World Record OW Swim

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Congrats to Penny Palfrey, her coaches, and support crew on her incredible swim!!! I was following it last night online!:applaud::bow: Steve Mullatones who taught our OW Swim Clinic at SwimFest last month was right there with her as well! www.compasscayman.com/.../
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    draw or imagine several squares, three inches on each side. draw an equal number of horizontal and vertical lines to create small squares, as in tic-tac-toe. in one square draw 10 horizontal and 10 vertical to yield 100 squares. leave one blank. divide the others as you like. now draw a dotted horizontal line form one side to the other, in each of the three inch squares. each small square represents one shark. each big square represent an ocean region and has the given population density. the dotted line represents pennys swim. when the shark population density is 100 per big-square, then she encounters 10 sharks. when the population drops to 1%, then she encounters only one shark. this is a 100-fold change in population density, but only a ten-fold change in shark-sightings if the population changes x-fold, then the sightings change by the square root of x. but this is just a naive model of 'counting sharks along a transect'. i'm guessing it sets a lower bound, and that penny's transect had a fractional dimension between 1 and 2. I think depends on the 'width' of penny's transect relative to the shark population density, as well as some statistical refinements. While averaging out sharks over a square area is helpful, a statistical evaluation would better reflect a real world analysis. So I would suggest that in any 100 X 100 square mile area, you could have all the sharks hovering in the path of Penny, or absolutely none. It is equally probable as any other given distribution so long as you identify each shark as a unique element of the statistical evaluation rather than referring to is a a generic shark. This also assumes that the sharks are neither attracted to a swimmer surrounded by 2 65 ft boats, 2 Zodiacs and 2 kayakers, nor scared off by them.
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    No sharks were killed on this swim. Jeff Kozlovich was on the boat standing next to Norma Connolly (the reporter who started the shark killing rumor) when the shark was hooked. kozhawaii.blogspot.com/.../penny-palfreys-core-team-member-speaks.html Steve Munatones was on the boat as well: www.dailynewsofopenwaterswimming.com/.../penny-smiles-but-others-do-not.html ... These are the findings of the interview with Ebanks (the alleged shark killer) and the locals who were on the boat crew as well as the Department of Tourism findings on this matter: www.facebook.com/.../238834866128494 Sharks were hooked and dragged away, not good for the sharks... but far better than dying. Read the part of jeffs article where it talks about what Penny and her Support Crew had decided to do about sharks. Ebanks was part of the Boat Crew... there is a difference in the boat crew and Penny's support Crew, the biggest distinction I can find is that Penny hand picked her Support Crew and the Boat Crew came with the boat. If I find that I am wrong about the latter I will post a retraction. When all this is put together the gist of it is more "sharks were hooked baited and dragged off by a fisherman whose only reply when he came back was I got rid of them and that was taken the wrong way by the reporter" rather than "3 sharks were chopped up and bleeding in the water around a swimmer thus putting her in more danger" No one is saying that no sharks were HARMED (hooks hurt), just that they were not killed.
  • No sharks were killed on this swim. Jeff Kozlovich was on the boat standing next to Norma Connolly (the reporter who started the shark killing rumor) when the shark was hooked. kozhawaii.blogspot.com/.../penny-palfreys-core-team-member-speaks.html Steve Munatones was on the boat as well: www.dailynewsofopenwaterswimming.com/.../penny-smiles-but-others-do-not.html ... These are the findings of the interview with Ebanks (the alleged shark killer) and the locals who were on the boat crew as well as the Department of Tourism findings on this matter: www.facebook.com/.../238834866128494 Sharks were hooked and dragged away, not good for the sharks... but far better than dying. Read the part of jeffs article where it talks about what Penny and her Support Crew had decided to do about sharks. Ebanks was part of the Boat Crew... there is a difference in the boat crew and Penny's support Crew, the biggest distinction I can find is that Penny hand picked her Support Crew and the Boat Crew came with the boat. If I find that I am wrong about the latter I will post a retraction. When all this is put together the gist of it is more "sharks were hooked baited and dragged off by a fisherman whose only reply when he came back was I got rid of them and that was taken the wrong way by the reporter" rather than "3 sharks were chopped up and bleeding in the water around a swimmer thus putting her in more danger" No one is saying that no sharks were HARMED (hooks hurt), just that they were not killed. Hopefully this is true,but all we really have to go on is Mr Ebanks statement which doesn't preclude the possibility that the dragging away may have been more harmful that stated/understood.
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    Hopefully this is true,but all we really have to go on is Mr Ebanks statement which doesn't preclude the possibility that the dragging away may have been more harmful that stated/understood. It isn't just Ebanks statement that I posted. I also posted the first hand accounts of 2 people who were either in the water at the time the shark encounters happened or (as in Jeff's case) standing on the same part of the boat as the reporter who started this whole issue by misreporting what actually happened.
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    you're too, too, too funny bob! lets see what i can come up with. okay. something politically incorrect happened out there regarding sharks. maybe brutal slayings by a serial killer like Jack the Ripper. there are stories circulating that members of his immediately moved to the Caymans to start a new life. maybe tortured carcharhinidae by a non-swimming masochist or a triathlete, maybe someone just gave old whitey the evil eye for his sex change, maybe whatever. their lawyers get together to see if they could file a lawsuit claiming that lawyers own the rights to the word "shark", and the a lawyer of the lawyers said his clients took personal offense that people would claim that shark/lawyers could be gotten rid of so easily by dragging them away, with one of them named bob just to be sure individuality is not lost in the analysis, and another named C. Longimanus, because, you know, its a union gig, who advise them to admit nothing until all the 'evidence' is in, and then only admit what the evidence would convict them of otherwise, so as to get a lighter 'sentence'. and if all else fails claim that the formal legal training they received from the elite class of law professors genetically modified them resulting in a loss of empathy toward all living things including sharks. Frankly I had not heard about the lawsuit.
  • It isn't just Ebanks statement that I posted. I also posted the first hand accounts of 2 people who were either in the water at the time the shark encounters happened or (as in Jeff's case) standing on the same part of the boat as the reporter who started this whole issue by misreporting what actually happened. Neither one of the other 2 witnesses know what Mr,. Ebank did after he dragged the shark(s) off,which is why I said we only have his account of the incidents after he hooked the shark(s).
  • Are there any guide lines set for this "protective " behavior??