English Channel - CSA vs. CS&PF What's the Deal

Didnt mean to be controversial, I do believe that some attempts have been made to swim with a wetsuit,people did timed crossings in kayaks, I did not presume they passed them off as anything they were not...if that makes sense. But they did oversee those type attempts, just something that the CSA does not do. As for the swim in question, here is the link to the chart www.dover.uk.com/.../ I only point out that with the tide as it is to swim that straight across is incredible. He managed to swim to from the closest point to the cloest point, in a direct line. Most swim start our direct line straight East, then almost 90 degree right angle, as you swim straight ahead but drop down faster than going east. adding many more miles to the swim... I only meant that during my time in Dover it was a topic of discussion, and I didnt start it, hats off to Petar, hell of a swim. Note: I said I would never doubt anyone with CS&PF certification. As for the drowning, I couldnt find the exact link, but offer the following from the Dover Crossing website under fatalities: Ueli Staub - 11 August 2001 Swiss swimmer Ueli Staub, 37, disappeared from view when he was about a mile off the French coast having swum for 16 hours from Dover. His body was found six days later, in the sea near Ostende. " He was a CS&PF escorted swimmer, could have possible happened to any one, when this happened it did cause a stir as to clarify who has the say as to go or to stop, swimmer, pilot, or observer. Ueli was lost in a hugh swell, where he basically disappeared from sight of the boat. I did not make up any of the facts in my post...should have let someone who "knows" answer the question. but the answer remains the same, they are both organizations that oversee/certify English channel swim attempts. AS I SAID not much difference between them. mainly the fee structure, maybe they are the same there as well. Some of the founding members of CS&PF are former board members of the CSA. that is true as well. Based on the heated response, it must be a touchy subject....didnt know that....sorry.

Didnt mean to be controversial, I do believe that some attempts have been made to swim with a wetsuit,people did timed crossings in kayaks, I did not presume they passed them off as anything they were not...if that makes sense. But they did oversee those type attempts, just something that the CSA does not do. As for the swim in question, here is the link to the chart www.dover.uk.com/.../ I only point out that with the tide as it is to swim that straight across is incredible. He managed to swim to from the closest point to the cloest point, in a direct line. Most swim start our direct line straight East, then almost 90 degree right angle, as you swim straight ahead but drop down faster than going east. adding many more miles to the swim... I only meant that during my time in Dover it was a topic of discussion, and I didnt start it, hats off to Petar, hell of a swim. Note: I said I would never doubt anyone with CS&PF certification. As for the drowning, I couldnt find the exact link, but offer the following from the Dover Crossing website under fatalities: Ueli Staub - 11 August 2001 Swiss swimmer Ueli Staub, 37, disappeared from view when he was about a mile off the French coast having swum for 16 hours from Dover. His body was found six days later, in the sea near Ostende. " He was a CS&PF escorted swimmer, could have possible happened to any one, when this happened it did cause a stir as to clarify who has the say as to go or to stop, swimmer, pilot, or observer. Ueli was lost in a hugh swell, where he basically disappeared from sight of the boat. I did not make up any of the facts in my post...should have let someone who "knows" answer the question. but the answer remains the same, they are both organizations that oversee/certify English channel swim attempts. AS I SAID not much difference between them. mainly the fee structure, maybe they are the same there as well. Some of the founding members of CS&PF are former board members of the CSA. that is true as well. Based on the heated response, it must be a touchy subject....didnt know that....sorry.