As a sometime triathlete I try to keep an open mind about triathletes and swimming. But sometimes their approach is indefensible. From Vineman 70.3 this was seen
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Heh, I knew that thread would pi$$ you off (me too), You should have read the last (now deleted) post.
For the record, that's redman per the post, not vineman.
HOWEVER, as a swimmer, I cannot for one second believe that the person walking maintained that position walking the entire course, or that where he is walking in thigh deep water is faster than swimming, or that he is gaining any advantage. I did a tri where they "canceled" the swim in lieu of a 200 yd walk through thigh deep water (why, I have no clue). It was freaking hard, and I was much more worn out than if I had swum the distance.
I find the kayak to kayak thread more distressing
OK, went to the course site because I want to know where this is in the swim. Given the angle of the buoys, it looks like this has to be coming into shore at a slight angle, and the guy just stood up way too early. Doesn't seem to be anywhere else in the course they'd be angling toward the shore like that.
www.redmantriathlon.com/.../RM09_Lake_Hefner_Run_Swim_091009.pdf
ETA - nope, according to the poster, that's the first long leg. oh well
Heh, I knew that thread would pi$$ you off (me too), You should have read the last (now deleted) post.
For the record, that's redman per the post, not vineman.
HOWEVER, as a swimmer, I cannot for one second believe that the person walking maintained that position walking the entire course, or that where he is walking in thigh deep water is faster than swimming, or that he is gaining any advantage. I did a tri where they "canceled" the swim in lieu of a 200 yd walk through thigh deep water (why, I have no clue). It was freaking hard, and I was much more worn out than if I had swum the distance.
I find the kayak to kayak thread more distressing
OK, went to the course site because I want to know where this is in the swim. Given the angle of the buoys, it looks like this has to be coming into shore at a slight angle, and the guy just stood up way too early. Doesn't seem to be anywhere else in the course they'd be angling toward the shore like that.
www.redmantriathlon.com/.../RM09_Lake_Hefner_Run_Swim_091009.pdf
ETA - nope, according to the poster, that's the first long leg. oh well
Thanks for the race correction. I thought it was I that was seeing red so I just got confused. I need to chase down the kayak thread. I missed it. . . . .
you would probably be pissed at vineman too, which is swam in the russian river and last year there was a sandbar of about 50 yards at the t/a point such that you had to stand up and run until the water got back to 2.5-3 ft (which was the average depth) .
Well, it is within the rules. There is even a case where 1 person walked an ironman swim.
The swim is my best leg of the race, so I swam.
source? I can't think of a course that would be 100% walkable. Vineman partially.
Well, it is within the rules. There is even a case where 1 person walked an ironman swim.
When it get's down to setting up a swim course with the goal of making it so safe for the inexperienced that they could walk the course, the sport of triathlon becomes just a money making machine for the promoters. If people are not ready to complete the swim leg they should enter duathlons, runs or bike races. But promoters see that there is gold in the fast growing sport of triathlons. Triathlons have more cache to them than the others so people are willing to pay higher entrance fees, travel further and race more often. It is like what has happened to climbing in the Himalayas. If you are going to spend the money, climb Everest. Forget that you have to wait in line in so many places on the route including the summit and the dangerous Hilary Step. There are so many other climbs in the Himalayas that would be more challenging, as beautiful and with just as much risk as Everest. But instead of standing and waiting for the weather to move in and risking your life standing in line, you challenge yourself, your experience, your resolve, the mountain, the elements working together with your team to pursue excellence and success. Nevermind, bragging about Everest (or a triathlon) sounds more fun. :-)
When it get's down to setting up a swim course with the goal of making it so safe for the inexperienced that they could walk the course, the sport of triathlon becomes just a money making machine for the promoters. If people are not ready to complete the swim leg they should enter duathlons, runs or bike races. But promoters see that there is gold in the fast growing sport of triathlons. ...
I agree.
Since I can't run anymore, I am getting involved in Masters Swimming. Something I have wanted to do for a few years anyway.
source? I can't think of a course that would be 100% walkable. Vineman partially.
with the low water levels in CA last year, vineman could be walked completely
if you didn't mind the very rocky bottom. many scraps on hands after swim for those with long arms
source? I can't think of a course that would be 100% walkable. Vineman partially.
It was an article in one of the tri mags a few years ago. I checked with my tri peeps and they remember it; but, I can't find it on line. It was when magazines were still trying to get you to buy instead of putting content online.
