Big Shoulders 2009

Ok, so the more they email me, the more I get nervous about the water temp. Last year it was 69 which stung to get in, but it made for a nice swimming temp. By the end, though, my fingers and toes felt a little numb, but that could have been tired (??). But this year, it could be up to 10 degrees colder?! What to do when the coolest water I can find here in Cincinnati is 80?
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    I am not trying to be a jerk here: I am either completely misinformed or this claim is patently false. In this very thread the set was 50x100's on 1:15 in yards. Now it is 50x100's in on 1:10 meters? There is 14 years of data on Mr. Seibt in the top 10 data base. His "graph" looks just like everyone else’s. 14 years ago he was doing 1000 yard frees in 10:24. We have a 10:36 9 years ago, and a 10:51 this year. These are very respectable times, but hardly world class. But now, after 14 years, he is putting up a set that Micheal Phelps would have trouble with (for the record I think Phelps could do 50x100's on 1:10 but he sure wouldn't look forward to it). What is the explanation for this? Hanging back for 14 years? It is not going out on a limb to say that any swimmer with a 14 year track record similar to Mr. Seibt’s cannot do 50x100's on 1:10 in LCM in a practice setting ( or any setting). I think more than 3x100s would be a struggle at that pace. So can we get some clarification, Chris? What was the specific claim? And would it bother you if you find out that some of the evidence you were given was wrong or exaggerated? This thread is beginning to fascinate me. As a distance swimmer I would estimate that Mr. Seibt's database pool times do not match his recent open water swim in the least. Perhaps we could have some other distance swimmers comment on this phenomenon? In reading the race director's comments, I have more questions now than before. I am not questioning Mr. Seibt's great feat or his win. I am, however, trying to determine the mechanics behind a masters swimmer going from an 18:05 in the mile; 11:00 in the 1000; 5:12 in the 500 to the 5K OW time and to doing 50x100 meters @ 1:10.
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  • Former Member
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    I am not trying to be a jerk here: I am either completely misinformed or this claim is patently false. In this very thread the set was 50x100's on 1:15 in yards. Now it is 50x100's in on 1:10 meters? There is 14 years of data on Mr. Seibt in the top 10 data base. His "graph" looks just like everyone else’s. 14 years ago he was doing 1000 yard frees in 10:24. We have a 10:36 9 years ago, and a 10:51 this year. These are very respectable times, but hardly world class. But now, after 14 years, he is putting up a set that Micheal Phelps would have trouble with (for the record I think Phelps could do 50x100's on 1:10 but he sure wouldn't look forward to it). What is the explanation for this? Hanging back for 14 years? It is not going out on a limb to say that any swimmer with a 14 year track record similar to Mr. Seibt’s cannot do 50x100's on 1:10 in LCM in a practice setting ( or any setting). I think more than 3x100s would be a struggle at that pace. So can we get some clarification, Chris? What was the specific claim? And would it bother you if you find out that some of the evidence you were given was wrong or exaggerated? This thread is beginning to fascinate me. As a distance swimmer I would estimate that Mr. Seibt's database pool times do not match his recent open water swim in the least. Perhaps we could have some other distance swimmers comment on this phenomenon? In reading the race director's comments, I have more questions now than before. I am not questioning Mr. Seibt's great feat or his win. I am, however, trying to determine the mechanics behind a masters swimmer going from an 18:05 in the mile; 11:00 in the 1000; 5:12 in the 500 to the 5K OW time and to doing 50x100 meters @ 1:10.
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