2011 NCAAs

Yep it's not fair, the whole challenge is to get IN the meet and it works according to a complicated formula. only so many swimmers are allowed in, think it's 270. They start with the top seed the 4 x 50 relay. Those 4 swimmers are in the meet. Then the top seed in the 500 fr That swimmer is in the meet. Then 200 IM then 50 fr If someone is already in the meet they skip them for the sake of counting and they keep going till they hit that number of swimmers and divers of in the meet. all described in the NCAA's 2011 DIVISION I MEN’S & WOMEN’S SWIMMING & DIVING CHAMPIONSHIPS HANDBOOK "Selections" on page 21 reads: Number of Participants. The number of participants in the 2011 Division I championships cannot exceed the following limits: Men—270 participants; and women—322 participants. All swimmers and divers that are invited to the meet will be counted toward the total number of participants allowed. If an invited athlete does not swim or dive in the championships, then the participation cap will not be met thus precluding an opportunity from another student-athlete. It is imperative that coaches notify the NCAA of any circumstances that arise inhibiting an athlete from competing. In these circumstances the committee will make every effort to invite an alternate to the meet to maintain the participation cap. {Please note: relay only athletes that are selected to the meet count towards the participation cap, therefore those athletes must swim on the selected relay or the entire relay becomes ineligible to compete in that event.} Selection of Participants: Step 1: A total of 35 divers for men and 41 divers for women will be entered in to the championships. Step 2: All individual swimmers and all relays that have achieved “A’’ time standards will be entered in the meet. Step 3: All events will be filled, one entry time per event, until each event has the same number of competitors up to 16 places. Only 16 relays will be selected during this process. Teams will still have the opportunity to submit optional entry relays, but 16 will remain the cap on selected relay marks, unless more than 16 relay teams have met the “A” standard. Any events that already exceed this number of places due to “A” qualifiers will not receive additional entrants at this time. Step 4: One entry will be added to each individual swimming event in event order. No entrants will be added to an event that exceeds this number of places because of “A” qualifiers until all individual events even out. This process will be repeated as long as each individual event in the entire order of events can receive an additional entry and the number of total competitors will remain below the cap (270 for the men’s meet and 322 for the women’s meet). Step 5: At some point, the addition of one competitor per event to the entire order of individual events will put the field over the total number of competitors cap. At this point, the remaining spaces will be allocated by comparing each events percentage (Division I championships record time for that event divided by entry time). The competitor who has the highest percentage (closest to the record) will be taken first. Step 6: If we are in compliance with the formula below (we are into the listed individual row or greater) then go on to Step 7. If we are not in compliance with the formula, then subtract 1 relay (used in Step 3) and redo the entire process. We will not accept less than 12 relays for the men’s meet or 13 relays for the women’s meet. Men 16 relays - 26 individual rows 15 relays - 24 individual rows 14 relays - 22 individual rows 13 relays - 20 individual rows 12 relays - guaranteed Women 16 relays - 32 individual rows 15 relays - 30 individual rows 14 relays - 28 individual rows 13 relays - guaranteed Step 7: Enter optional entries for those individuals who are invited to the meet. Step 8 An alternate list of qualifiers will be created by individual event row. This list will be in row order and then by percentages (calculated in Step 5) within each row. This list will be used in case a swimmer who has been invited to the championships has become ineligible or unavailable. Zone Diving Selections. Each zone will receive a minimum of four spots for men and women. The guaranteed spots will fill 20 of the 35 diving spots for men and 20 of 41 spots for women. To complete the diving field (15 spots for men and 21 spots for women), the results from the previous year’s national championships will be used. A place system will be used to determine the allocations going to each zone for next year’s meet. The allocations for the 2011 men’s championships are: Zone A— 4; Zone B—9; Zone C*— 7; Zone D— 7; and Zone E*—8. The allocations for the 2011 women’s championships are: Zone A—5; Zone B— 9; Zone C— 10; Zone D— 11; and Zone E—6. Back when I swam at Texas, in 1985, if you made the cut you were in the meet but each team had to have 18 or fewer swimmers. (divers count as half) so our NCAA team had 17 swimmers and 2 divers. There weren't B cuts or the 4 x 50 fr & IM relays. in 1985 I made the Div 1 NCAA cut but we had too many swimmers make it, so I wasn't able to compete for Texas at NCAAs which were at our pool. That taught me, if you want something, you have to be the clear choice. Ande Just doesn't seem to make sense not to have the fastest swimmers swimming in each event. IMHO... Doing a little looking...the guy that is 122nd out of 124 in the 50 FR (uncut sheet) is swimming and the guy that is 25th in the country is not. If you cut the list off at 64, like they did in the final list, 16 of the top 64 50 FR swimmers will not be swimming the 50 this year...

Yep it's not fair, the whole challenge is to get IN the meet and it works according to a complicated formula. only so many swimmers are allowed in, think it's 270. They start with the top seed the 4 x 50 relay. Those 4 swimmers are in the meet. Then the top seed in the 500 fr That swimmer is in the meet. Then 200 IM then 50 fr If someone is already in the meet they skip them for the sake of counting and they keep going till they hit that number of swimmers and divers of in the meet. all described in the NCAA's 2011 DIVISION I MEN’S & WOMEN’S SWIMMING & DIVING CHAMPIONSHIPS HANDBOOK "Selections" on page 21 reads: Number of Participants. The number of participants in the 2011 Division I championships cannot exceed the following limits: Men—270 participants; and women—322 participants. All swimmers and divers that are invited to the meet will be counted toward the total number of participants allowed. If an invited athlete does not swim or dive in the championships, then the participation cap will not be met thus precluding an opportunity from another student-athlete. It is imperative that coaches notify the NCAA of any circumstances that arise inhibiting an athlete from competing. In these circumstances the committee will make every effort to invite an alternate to the meet to maintain the participation cap. {Please note: relay only athletes that are selected to the meet count towards the participation cap, therefore those athletes must swim on the selected relay or the entire relay becomes ineligible to compete in that event.} Selection of Participants: Step 1: A total of 35 divers for men and 41 divers for women will be entered in to the championships. Step 2: All individual swimmers and all relays that have achieved “A’’ time standards will be entered in the meet. Step 3: All events will be filled, one entry time per event, until each event has the same number of competitors up to 16 places. Only 16 relays will be selected during this process. Teams will still have the opportunity to submit optional entry relays, but 16 will remain the cap on selected relay marks, unless more than 16 relay teams have met the “A” standard. Any events that already exceed this number of places due to “A” qualifiers will not receive additional entrants at this time. Step 4: One entry will be added to each individual swimming event in event order. No entrants will be added to an event that exceeds this number of places because of “A” qualifiers until all individual events even out. This process will be repeated as long as each individual event in the entire order of events can receive an additional entry and the number of total competitors will remain below the cap (270 for the men’s meet and 322 for the women’s meet). Step 5: At some point, the addition of one competitor per event to the entire order of individual events will put the field over the total number of competitors cap. At this point, the remaining spaces will be allocated by comparing each events percentage (Division I championships record time for that event divided by entry time). The competitor who has the highest percentage (closest to the record) will be taken first. Step 6: If we are in compliance with the formula below (we are into the listed individual row or greater) then go on to Step 7. If we are not in compliance with the formula, then subtract 1 relay (used in Step 3) and redo the entire process. We will not accept less than 12 relays for the men’s meet or 13 relays for the women’s meet. Men 16 relays - 26 individual rows 15 relays - 24 individual rows 14 relays - 22 individual rows 13 relays - 20 individual rows 12 relays - guaranteed Women 16 relays - 32 individual rows 15 relays - 30 individual rows 14 relays - 28 individual rows 13 relays - guaranteed Step 7: Enter optional entries for those individuals who are invited to the meet. Step 8 An alternate list of qualifiers will be created by individual event row. This list will be in row order and then by percentages (calculated in Step 5) within each row. This list will be used in case a swimmer who has been invited to the championships has become ineligible or unavailable. Zone Diving Selections. Each zone will receive a minimum of four spots for men and women. The guaranteed spots will fill 20 of the 35 diving spots for men and 20 of 41 spots for women. To complete the diving field (15 spots for men and 21 spots for women), the results from the previous year’s national championships will be used. A place system will be used to determine the allocations going to each zone for next year’s meet. The allocations for the 2011 men’s championships are: Zone A— 4; Zone B—9; Zone C*— 7; Zone D— 7; and Zone E*—8. The allocations for the 2011 women’s championships are: Zone A—5; Zone B— 9; Zone C— 10; Zone D— 11; and Zone E—6. Back when I swam at Texas, in 1985, if you made the cut you were in the meet but each team had to have 18 or fewer swimmers. (divers count as half) so our NCAA team had 17 swimmers and 2 divers. There weren't B cuts or the 4 x 50 fr & IM relays. in 1985 I made the Div 1 NCAA cut but we had too many swimmers make it, so I wasn't able to compete for Texas at NCAAs which were at our pool. That taught me, if you want something, you have to be the clear choice. Ande Just doesn't seem to make sense not to have the fastest swimmers swimming in each event. IMHO... Doing a little looking...the guy that is 122nd out of 124 in the 50 FR (uncut sheet) is swimming and the guy that is 25th in the country is not. If you cut the list off at 64, like they did in the final list, 16 of the top 64 50 FR swimmers will not be swimming the 50 this year...