To those that have set or broken any swimming records, which are they? :banana:
Anything from a school, local, club or meet record on up to world qualifies. :cheerleader: :worms:
Feel free to include any story leading up to how and when you broke the record.
The reason I put World Number 1 Swims at 2 and World Championships at 3 was because you can compare great swimmers from around the world with those two categories. With 4 and 5, it would just be USMS swimmers and you could be right but then you could not compare the great swimmers from around the world.
Just like Swimming, there is something you can compare for the first 7 items and I kind of modeled this from that. The World Top Ten does discriminate a little against USMS because they ignore short course yard swims and I believe even though we have some great swims in SCM, we don't have as much as SCY and with our National Meet being SCY, USMS loses something there.
I agree with you on the World Championships and it depends on who shows up in the age group and where the meet is held. I remember Dennis Baker was getting ready to swim an event at the 2006 World Championships and I volunteered as a Marshall and noticed in his heat that he had Sergei Fesenko, who was the 1980 Olympic Medalist, Roger Von Jouanne, who was an American Record holder, Cammeron Reid, National Team member, Marcus Mattioli, 1980 Olympian, and Bill Specht, ISHOF Masters swimmer all in the same heat for the World Championship. This is an example of when Number 3 is really Number 3.
Stanford Worlds was incredibly fast, I'm not sure I would hold that meet up as a "typical" World Champs meet.
Anyway, I agree that the world stage is usually harder than the national stage. With the exception of All-Stars, I paired everything up: first FINA then USMS records; FINA #1 then USMS #1; FINA champion then USMS champion.
But I don't think, for example, that it is usually harder to win World Championships than to get a USMS #1 ranking. But as I said, my opinion is colored by being in 40-44 and 45-49 age groups recently, and maybe they are not typical. (It wouldn't be difficult -- though a little tedious -- to test my assertion: just see how many times the USMS #1 would win Worlds, or vice versa, in a given year.)
But any of these items is difficult. It is a challenge to use either list as a "checklist" to see which -- or how many -- one can do. Even doing one of these things is a cause for celebration.
The reason I put World Number 1 Swims at 2 and World Championships at 3 was because you can compare great swimmers from around the world with those two categories. With 4 and 5, it would just be USMS swimmers and you could be right but then you could not compare the great swimmers from around the world.
Just like Swimming, there is something you can compare for the first 7 items and I kind of modeled this from that. The World Top Ten does discriminate a little against USMS because they ignore short course yard swims and I believe even though we have some great swims in SCM, we don't have as much as SCY and with our National Meet being SCY, USMS loses something there.
I agree with you on the World Championships and it depends on who shows up in the age group and where the meet is held. I remember Dennis Baker was getting ready to swim an event at the 2006 World Championships and I volunteered as a Marshall and noticed in his heat that he had Sergei Fesenko, who was the 1980 Olympic Medalist, Roger Von Jouanne, who was an American Record holder, Cammeron Reid, National Team member, Marcus Mattioli, 1980 Olympian, and Bill Specht, ISHOF Masters swimmer all in the same heat for the World Championship. This is an example of when Number 3 is really Number 3.
Stanford Worlds was incredibly fast, I'm not sure I would hold that meet up as a "typical" World Champs meet.
Anyway, I agree that the world stage is usually harder than the national stage. With the exception of All-Stars, I paired everything up: first FINA then USMS records; FINA #1 then USMS #1; FINA champion then USMS champion.
But I don't think, for example, that it is usually harder to win World Championships than to get a USMS #1 ranking. But as I said, my opinion is colored by being in 40-44 and 45-49 age groups recently, and maybe they are not typical. (It wouldn't be difficult -- though a little tedious -- to test my assertion: just see how many times the USMS #1 would win Worlds, or vice versa, in a given year.)
But any of these items is difficult. It is a challenge to use either list as a "checklist" to see which -- or how many -- one can do. Even doing one of these things is a cause for celebration.
