2011 SCY Nats in Mesa, AZ

Swimming yards outdoors is a foreign concept to me. One of these days, I will do a yards meet in the open air. The bubble over our SCY pool is being removed as I type this. My favorite part of the swimming year is about to start! Great job to all at Nats! Sounds like a great time. Looking forward to Greensboro next year.

nats results have already loaded in the: Meet Results Database Rankings check how you rank there might be a few more meets after nats like May 13 - 15, 2011: SPMA SCY Regional Championship Meet SCY at La Mirada, CA Zone Championship Sanctioned by the Southern Pacific LMSC of USMS View Details

I need to look at the final stats, but it seemed to me many more records were set on the women's side. Possibly because the new suit rules don't affect women as much as men? Here's the thing I noticed and of course it might be totally bogus since these are the swims I paid attention to, but the superstars are still swimming fast whereas the great unwashed seem to be slower on the whole. My theory is the suits affected them less. Their technique is so good that the tech suits didn't help them as much as other, less talented, swimmers. Any thought on this from anyone else? Here is the list: www.usms.org/.../records.pdf According to my count, there were 41 new individual records set, 23 on the women's side and 18 on the men's. That's not definitive. 24 of the records were set by "newly aged-up" swimmers. That is much higher than random, but that is to be expected: the swimmers are (a) young and (b) new to the age group. I don't know if it unusually high compared to other years. It may also be that some of the other 17 records were by people swimming in their new age group for the first time even though their ages don't end in 0 or 5 (eg, I don't remember Josh Davis swimming last year). As far as the suits affecting slower people more than faster: maybe. I remember some people reporting really phenomenal improvements with the suits, the likes of which would put some of the fastest masters swimmers in NCAA finals or something.

Chris Stevenson was extremely happy that he swam faster than me in the 100 back. I saw his time go on the board about five minutes before my swim, and I thought "Well, it would be nice to go 51.5." Given our extreme differences in the way we swim the 100 back, it would be interesting to have us side by side for contrast. If I had known he was looking for a grudge match, my motivation to swim fast would not have been limited to only those in my heat. Why, I barely noticed that! Now that you mention it...here are the database results across all ages, and I do believe I see what you are talking about. :) 1 Silva, Nelson 24 49.81 ROSE 2 McCaffrey, Garrett W 28 50.59 PHX 3 Stevenson, Chris L 46 51.55 VMST 4 Commings, Jeff P 37 51.77 PHX (I always like it when I can make "USMS top ten" in events across all ages, so I check these things. I suppose soon I'll be too decrepit to compete with the youngsters.) Jokes aside: you had a fantastic meet, you deserve to savor the experience. Sorry we won't see you at Auburn.

Shot the race on my iPhone YouTube - 2011 usms nationals 200 breastroke mens 30 - 34 Ed Moses I'm in lane 8 getting worked.

Welcome once again to Piano Digest... That leaves us with James, who prefers to swim the 200 fly the way that he does, so who are we to argue? :agree: 8 Adams, James A 33 HMS 2:04.71 2:07.12 12.74 26.52 57.19 (30.67) 1:30.33 (33.14) 2:07.12 (36.79) I am here in defense of this swim: :) First of all, (I didn't figure this out till Sunday's events) was that I had over-tapered for the meet. Basically I threw away all the endurance training I had built up in my body, and traded it for the breakout speed for shorter races and first 100s of longer stuff. (this wasn't the plan) :( Secondly, my knee pain was with me the whole meet, and the first couple turns of the 200 Fly, crunching up on the wall put some extra pressure on my joints, and in addition the downward force of the dolphin kicks hurt also. I lost complete focus on my race, and all I was thinking about was the pain in my knee. My breathing pattern was non-existent, my kick was almost gone because I couldn't kick without hurting, and I paid for it all in the last 75 of the race. I will be posting the video for all to view later. :afraid: A few positives...I did get a best masters time in the swim (by .6 seconds - should have been more like 5 seconds), and also medaled in the race - 8th place. Next fall I'm sure I can do better. :banana:

I need to look at the final stats, but it seemed to me many more records were set on the women's side. Possibly because the new suit rules don't affect women as much as men? Here's the thing I noticed and of course it might be totally bogus since these are the swims I paid attention to, but the superstars are still swimming fast whereas the great unwashed seem to be slower on the whole. My theory is the suits affected them less. Their technique is so good that the tech suits didn't help them as much as other, less talented, swimmers. Any thought on this from anyone else?

The tech suit change definitely hasn't affected me at all. So my calves aren't covered and the world has to take a peek at my knee fat. C'est la vie. The men don't get the advantage of having the suit secure the midsection if you know what I mean. I got 5 out of 6 best times in this meet. I had it in me to do 6 out of 6, but for some reason my *** stroke was off a little yesterday. I think my legs were just wasted. Even my *** split in my IM was slower than usual. I think it works better when I swim the 200 *** early rather than the last day.

-- Krugman, Elaine 49 GAJA 3:20.44 NS I... I thought it was just a figure of speech... :badday: :lmao: Thanks, That Guy; I needed a good laugh this morning... :D The heat got the best of me, but that wasn't unexpected. I knew that coming into this meet, so I came out to have fun, meet up with my Forumite buddies, watch some great races- and hope I could make it through my swims. But, my heat issues destroyed my :bed: and my body, so I :whiteflag:on Sunday and didn't even suit up. Congrats. to Paul Smith and his army of volunteers for putting on a great meet! It was a blast and well worth the trip out! Great job!! :applaud: I most enjoyed meeting up with my fellow Forumites; especially bzaks1424 and Debaru! From the moment we picked Michael up from the airport, it has been a blast. Last night, the three of us celebrated with James Adams and toasted you all at Four Peaks Brewery. To Rich Abrahams, Jeff Commings, Kirk Nelson, Skip Thompson, and Poolrat, it was great meeting you! (Thanks, especially, to Rich and Skip; you guys made my day! :D ) Hey Allen, Ande, Anna Lea and Jim, it was great seeing you two again! (King Frog, you are truly a king! :bow: Great to meet Mrs. Frog, too! Carol, I'm looking forward to seeing you, again, in Auburn!) So, who is going to Auburn??? :cheerleader:

I need to look at the final stats, but it seemed to me many more records were set on the women's side. Possibly because the new suit rules don't affect women as much as men? Here's the thing I noticed and of course it might be totally bogus since these are the swims I paid attention to, but the superstars are still swimming fast whereas the great unwashed seem to be slower on the whole. My theory is the suits affected them less. Their technique is so good that the tech suits didn't help them as much as other, less talented, swimmers. Any thought on this from anyone else? Technique, physique, or a combination of the two. My take is that suitlessness has less effect on people who are strong kickers and/or have good body position (including streamlines) and/or have a more streamlined profile.