Suit change poll for men

If you were a fan of the high tech suits, and if you swam a SCY 100 freestyle in such a suit at a meet last year around this time of the season, and if you have swum a SCY 100 freestyle under fairly similar circumstances this year so far, and if your training is more or less approximately in equal ball parks, and you are a guy, then please consider participating in my humble little poll. Thanks!
  • Was 2.6 seconds slower in 100M freestyle, but, I'm pretty sure that a good portion of that was preparation as my 100 fly was only 1.4 seconds slower year-over-year / B70 to jammers.
  • It's definitely hard to know for sure. We do a lot of these little meets over the course of the fall and winter, and so I usually get to swim the 100 3-5 teams per season before any "big" meet. Last year, my times for the 100 ranged from 53.35 to 54.20. This year, I have only swum a 100 SCM (1:01.2, which converts to a 54.90, give or take) and a 55.2 today (my slowest 100 in years). Neither of these times this year would be bad for me if I could confidently subtract out 1-2 seconds to account from going from a B70 to a jammer. I guess I should probably just mentally make the shift, but it's hard to suddenly shift from thinking that a 55 is a terrible to thinking it's not necessarily that much different that I was swimming before "with assistance." I suppose we will know more comparing this year's SCM top 10 times to last year's--and even more when this year's SCY top 10 times finally come out next summer!
  • What do the new tech jammers do if anything? Are they worth the cost or just get good poly jammers?
  • My time in the 100 free is .6 faster in my full body B70 than shaved and tapered, or about 1.3 faster than unshaved. In both cases, I was wearing an FS Pro Jammer, which I think is pretty close to the current wave of jammer tech suits. I think the jammer tech suits eliminate drag caused by either leg hair or the regular suit material though I'm not sure they are worth what companies are charging for them...
  • I calculated the percent difference between last years SCM championship meet at Long Beach with a B70 and this year with the jammer: these are 50, 100, 200 and 400 free and 100 IM. I aged up to 60 - 64 last year. '09 / '10 / % diff 27.10 / 27.69/ 2.2% 59.76 / 1:01.19/ 2.4% 2:14.66/ 2:17.53/ 2.1% 4:49.57/ 4:53.44/ 1.4% 1:10.41/ 1:12.08/ 2.4% By the time I got to the 100 IM this year , the last individual event (then I swam the last 200 free relay) I had swum 10 events and I had swum the 50 back just before the IM, so the IM time is maybe not a good comparison from last year where I swam a total of 7 events. However, I believe the other events compare well with last year. One other thing is that I shaved this year but did not last year and I have a pile of chest hair on the floor to prove it.
  • I think the suitmakers became addicted to the profits of the tech suits and are trying to convince us that a new permeable jammer is worth 2/3 as much as a full body B70 cost. It isn't shocking that manufacturers like profits. Why shouldn't they? I like to be paid for doing my job, too. I think the suitmakers (mostly correctly) believe that today's swimmers and college coaches have been conditioned to paying a lot for suits over the last few years, and to believe that paying top dollar will translate to faster times.
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    What do the new tech jammers do if anything? Are they worth the cost or just get good poly jammers? I have a hard time with any of the new competition jammers that cost well over $200. I think the suitmakers became addicted to the profits of the tech suits and are trying to convince us that a new permeable jammer is worth 2/3 as much as a full body B70 cost.