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Why do we continue to point to lower participating numbers of women in sports to justify the assertion that society is persecuting women? I was a part of a state high school championship team in Colorado and we never cut anybody. My daughters' teams in this very school (Deer Valley) district were regional champions 11 years running. Nobody on their teams got cut. I would assert that the opportunities are there even with the good teams/schools. Is it possible that overall less women are interested in sports? Badminton would put us in compliance??? Swell.
And for what it's worth, I think Hogshead got touched out in the 84 Olympics.
Fort, it's been awhile, please educate me again.:)
Your point is well taken. However, your premise is still that women's programs should be cut. Is that really "what's right"? I think it is football, and it's place in a university setting, that needs to be addressed and modified so that "unfairness" is not inflicted on our sons. Otherwise, we could just revert to the unfairness being inflicted on women.
And we should let college sports be determined by "student interest surveys"?! WTH?
And, yes, I have a son about to go off to college and all he does is endurance sports.
Leslie, I definitely agree with you about football. It is crazy, in my opinion, that this is the tail wagging the dog. But we live in a country where money seems to be all that matters to the powers that be, and so tolerating the unfairness in "minor" sports in the hopes that the football lunkheads will some day do the right thing seems to me impractical and just a way of preserving a new status quo that is, if not as unfair as the old days were to girls then, nevertheless still pretty unfair to boys today.
One of the sad statistics to emerge in the wake of that book about Ophelia and how schools are cheating girls, etc. is how colleges are now being swamped with girl applicants and far few boy applicants. I don't know if you happened to read the NYT article on college dating at schools where the gender ratio is far out of whack here--and the lengths to which college girls at such institutions are slutting themselves up and tolerating all sorts of cheating as the sine qua non of getting and keeping a boyfriend. I truly don't believe this situation is what the Cheating Ophelia authors hoped to bestow upon the younger generations, but this appears to be what is happening.
I wonder if there are any college swimmers on this forum who could opine on this subject? Do girls really like being on swim teams where there are either no boy swimmers or a disproportionately small number of them? To me, that was always one of the fun aspects of swimming--hanging out with friends of both genders.
I have heard that college admissions these days are practicing a kind of de facto affirmative action, where the standards for male admission to many colleges are somewhat looser than those for women because guys are doing more poorly in high school and applying to college in far few numbers than girls. College administrators seem to know that co-ed colleges that have no boys are going to become increasingly less popular to girls, too.
What if there were a new Academic Title IX that required roughly equal numbers of male and female college students, a law that codified by regulation what college administrators are sort of doing now on the sly?
Academic Title IX could argue that the conditions in modern high schools, which reward skill sets that girls tend to have in abundance more than boys (studiousness, lack of lunkheadedness, an aversion to spending 12 hours a day playing video games, etc.) are unfair. Unless we mandate equal numbers in college, and design programs to help bring boys back up to girls' achievement levels, the current phallo-punitive policies of persistent discrimination are, and are likely to remain, a societal abomination!
Your point is well taken. However, your premise is still that women's programs should be cut. Is that really "what's right"? I think it is football, and it's place in a university setting, that needs to be addressed and modified so that "unfairness" is not inflicted on our sons. Otherwise, we could just revert to the unfairness being inflicted on women.
And we should let college sports be determined by "student interest surveys"?! WTH?
And, yes, I have a son about to go off to college and all he does is endurance sports.
Leslie, I definitely agree with you about football. It is crazy, in my opinion, that this is the tail wagging the dog. But we live in a country where money seems to be all that matters to the powers that be, and so tolerating the unfairness in "minor" sports in the hopes that the football lunkheads will some day do the right thing seems to me impractical and just a way of preserving a new status quo that is, if not as unfair as the old days were to girls then, nevertheless still pretty unfair to boys today.
One of the sad statistics to emerge in the wake of that book about Ophelia and how schools are cheating girls, etc. is how colleges are now being swamped with girl applicants and far few boy applicants. I don't know if you happened to read the NYT article on college dating at schools where the gender ratio is far out of whack here--and the lengths to which college girls at such institutions are slutting themselves up and tolerating all sorts of cheating as the sine qua non of getting and keeping a boyfriend. I truly don't believe this situation is what the Cheating Ophelia authors hoped to bestow upon the younger generations, but this appears to be what is happening.
I wonder if there are any college swimmers on this forum who could opine on this subject? Do girls really like being on swim teams where there are either no boy swimmers or a disproportionately small number of them? To me, that was always one of the fun aspects of swimming--hanging out with friends of both genders.
I have heard that college admissions these days are practicing a kind of de facto affirmative action, where the standards for male admission to many colleges are somewhat looser than those for women because guys are doing more poorly in high school and applying to college in far few numbers than girls. College administrators seem to know that co-ed colleges that have no boys are going to become increasingly less popular to girls, too.
What if there were a new Academic Title IX that required roughly equal numbers of male and female college students, a law that codified by regulation what college administrators are sort of doing now on the sly?
Academic Title IX could argue that the conditions in modern high schools, which reward skill sets that girls tend to have in abundance more than boys (studiousness, lack of lunkheadedness, an aversion to spending 12 hours a day playing video games, etc.) are unfair. Unless we mandate equal numbers in college, and design programs to help bring boys back up to girls' achievement levels, the current phallo-punitive policies of persistent discrimination are, and are likely to remain, a societal abomination!
