First kudos to Frentos, he definitely made those times tougher for the next guy. Especially since he wore a jammer. I'm pretty sure someone like Roque can break them. Michael Ross can probably break the 200 IM.
Jerry's times are probably not as secure as Rich A's 22.10 50 scy fr for 65 - 69 men but they are really really good.
Being 44 & breaking records in the 45 - 49 age group is not a typo, it's just FINA rules.
For LCM & SCM, you are considered the age you will be on Dec 31st of each year.
It's another FINA screw up, not as serious as not requiring enough lifeguards on kayaks for open water swims or setting an acceptable water temperature range for races but when it comes to breaking records, people should be the age they are & not the beneficary of the FINA loophole.
As an example:
I turn 50 in 2013, my BD is May 21st, but for LCM & SCM records I will be considered 50 on Jan 1 2013.
Some lucky masters swimmers are born in December.
I guess FINA's wacky age group rules make it possible for a 44 year old to set 45-49 records or was that an SI typo:
"Frentsos, a 44-year-old Realtor, set five world records over six months in the master’s 45–49 age group, breaking his own marks in the long course 200-meter individual medley three times (2:14.90) and setting records in the short course 200-meter IM (2:09.71) and long course 400-meter IM (4:47.65). Frentos was a three-time All-America at Florida."
Regardless, those are AWESOME times.
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It's another FINA screw up, not as serious as not requiring enough lifeguards on kayaks for open water swims or setting an acceptable water temperature range for races but when it comes to breaking records, people should be the age they are & not the beneficary of the FINA loophole.
See, I disagree about this. FINA's definition basically says they only care what year you were born, not the exact date. I really don't feel that, because I was born in May, that I'm somehow at a disadvantage to someone born five months later and therefore deserve to be in a different age group.
The bottom line is it's six one way, half a dozen the other. Either way you are in each age group for exactly five years.
edit: one other thing I just thought about. I think--at least historically--there are certain countries that don't record birth date, just year. Since FINA is an international organization they'd have to consider that. The safe thing to do is just base your age on birth year.
edit: one other thing I just thought about. I think--at least historically--there are certain countries that don't record birth date, just year. Since FINA is an international organization they'd have to consider that. The safe thing to do is just base your age on birth year.I can live with it anyway. I just know that my dreams of aging up to 45 and finding reasonable IM records are gone. ;)
Hats off. Those times are impressive no matter what suit you're wearing.
I guess FINA's wacky age group rules make it possible for a 44 year old to set 45-49 records or was that an SI typo:
"Frentsos, a 44-year-old Realtor, set five world records over six months in the master’s 45–49 age group, breaking his own marks in the long course 200-meter individual medley three times (2:14.90) and setting records in the short course 200-meter IM (2:09.71) and long course 400-meter IM (4:47.65). Frentos was a three-time All-America at Florida."
Regardless, those are AWESOME times.
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Patrick, I can only assume that since you kind of submit these yourself that he's a late-year birthday and the age thing is accurate. He was 45-49 at our LC meet at UMD.
