Kick sets with gym shoes ? ?

Has anyone heard of this technique or used it in swim practices? It seems to do nothing for me other than takes 2 min to do a 50 !! I would rather use small fins or just use my own 2 feet !
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  • Michelle - sounds like a tough kick set. On the 4 x 50 on 2:00 set, how much rest are you getting on each 50? To directy answer your question, I hold 1:10-1:15 on the 2:00 for the shoe bits (SCM) Again, the key is to do whatever is sustainable. I know I wouldn't stick with longer sets or more 50's. When I swim by myself, I like to take a long time on the wall, but blasto when I do go. Simply adjust for what you want to do! Pay attention to where your body position is - both the angle (don't swim upstream) and the depth (try to get yourself right at the surface). Kick from the core - which I would define as the entire area starting from your chest to right above your knees. Try to keep a shallow kick, about 6 inches at most. Look at the bottom of the pool. Keep your arms in alignment and don't let any part of your body create drag (well, as much as possible). And as far as Bang for Your Buck - we aren't a huge kicking team. More lately, but quite ofen no dedicated kick sets in a workout. So as little as this may seem, as a percentage of what I have been doing - it's HUGE! Don't work on things your already good at! Given only 1 hour per day, I don't allocate the time to pulling (I either kick or do 1/2 fly) and "make it up" on my Vasa at home. In lieu of pure pulling, when I swim, I make a conscious effort to "get more square area" of my body into the pulling. By having a stronger, more efficient kick, I am higher in the water, better aligned, and thus I actually feel stronger because I am engaging more of my back and full body into the stroke rather than feeling like I am truncated at sharp angles around my shoulders. So I would say my STROKE is stronger, but that's because my stroke includes a larger amount of arm, body, and back muscles than it did before. The advice above is pretty universal for anyone. However, I strongly advise every swimmer that even with great coaching, no one but you can make that consistent effort - even if it's just 4x 50's, or a mere 4 minutes of vertical kicking! Or just pick something (all on your honor!) you are really terrible at, and work on it! You can do it! It's FUN to see how much you can improve (within the same time constraints!) - like a game!
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  • Michelle - sounds like a tough kick set. On the 4 x 50 on 2:00 set, how much rest are you getting on each 50? To directy answer your question, I hold 1:10-1:15 on the 2:00 for the shoe bits (SCM) Again, the key is to do whatever is sustainable. I know I wouldn't stick with longer sets or more 50's. When I swim by myself, I like to take a long time on the wall, but blasto when I do go. Simply adjust for what you want to do! Pay attention to where your body position is - both the angle (don't swim upstream) and the depth (try to get yourself right at the surface). Kick from the core - which I would define as the entire area starting from your chest to right above your knees. Try to keep a shallow kick, about 6 inches at most. Look at the bottom of the pool. Keep your arms in alignment and don't let any part of your body create drag (well, as much as possible). And as far as Bang for Your Buck - we aren't a huge kicking team. More lately, but quite ofen no dedicated kick sets in a workout. So as little as this may seem, as a percentage of what I have been doing - it's HUGE! Don't work on things your already good at! Given only 1 hour per day, I don't allocate the time to pulling (I either kick or do 1/2 fly) and "make it up" on my Vasa at home. In lieu of pure pulling, when I swim, I make a conscious effort to "get more square area" of my body into the pulling. By having a stronger, more efficient kick, I am higher in the water, better aligned, and thus I actually feel stronger because I am engaging more of my back and full body into the stroke rather than feeling like I am truncated at sharp angles around my shoulders. So I would say my STROKE is stronger, but that's because my stroke includes a larger amount of arm, body, and back muscles than it did before. The advice above is pretty universal for anyone. However, I strongly advise every swimmer that even with great coaching, no one but you can make that consistent effort - even if it's just 4x 50's, or a mere 4 minutes of vertical kicking! Or just pick something (all on your honor!) you are really terrible at, and work on it! You can do it! It's FUN to see how much you can improve (within the same time constraints!) - like a game!
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