freestyle vs kick-only times

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In my quest to figure out how to improve my freestyle speed away from embarrassingly slow times, I am working on the following three categories: 1) General form (especially arms) - I made a post about this awhile back with video and have improved a good deal since then, shaved a few seconds off my 50. 2) Stroke frequency - eventually going to one of those pace beepers and experiment with different frequencies. 3) Kick - kick frequency, kick width, and foot flexibility This post is concerned with the last of these - the kick. I recently compared my fastest kick-only time (no snorkel or flippers) with my fastest freestyle time and it is almost exactly 2x slower. I read various places that the kick provides a much smaller portion of the total propulsion in freestyle, so this gap seems smaller than I would expect. One explanation is that I am probably not giving the same attention/efffort to my kick during freestyle, which makes sense. Nevertheless, I still think I have much more work to do on my kick - its about ~86 seconds for 50m. Please let me know your kick times and ratio to equivalent free style times so I can set some reasonable goals and figure out how much my kick is holding me back. Thanks!
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    So many questions. With a board Without a board In a 25M pool In a 50M pool Dolphin kick for 15M in a 25M pool each length Dolphin kick for 15M in a 50M pool No dolphin kick Two arms extended in front in streamline One arm in front streamline the other arm sculls at the thigh when taking a breath These are just a few qestions there are many more. geochuck, thanks for the response. I am primarily concerned with comparing the following: 1) 25M pool "fastest speed normal freestyle" (whatever that means to you) 2) 25M pool flutter kick, arms in front with no board. For the breathing you can do whatever you want, just don't use a snorkel. If you or someone else could give me these times to compare, that would be great.
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  • Former Member
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    So many questions. With a board Without a board In a 25M pool In a 50M pool Dolphin kick for 15M in a 25M pool each length Dolphin kick for 15M in a 50M pool No dolphin kick Two arms extended in front in streamline One arm in front streamline the other arm sculls at the thigh when taking a breath These are just a few qestions there are many more. geochuck, thanks for the response. I am primarily concerned with comparing the following: 1) 25M pool "fastest speed normal freestyle" (whatever that means to you) 2) 25M pool flutter kick, arms in front with no board. For the breathing you can do whatever you want, just don't use a snorkel. If you or someone else could give me these times to compare, that would be great.
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