Masters team coaching pay

SolarEnergy, In Southern California we have several/many full time Masters coaches. I can think of three right off: Mission Viejo, SCAQ and Rose Bowl.

That depends on so many things. Why are you asking yourself these questions? Some coaches are pro-bonno. I've heard that the head coach of a squad I train with is paid $50/hr which sounds like a lot, given that he doesn't create then follow a yearly plan (seems to be improvising every session). My opinion, a good one should earn at least 50k per year working full time. Now you're not going to be coaching Masters full time though. So it becomes a matter of building a schedule made of private coaching, AG coaching, master coaching etc. Personally, I do this for fun, and by passion. That's no longer my main job. So I come quite cheap, but I do not have a lot of time. Given that I have time, you can get me for $20/hr, which is less than my hourly wage at my regular job. The students they usually hire at the University (the second squad with which I sometimes train) are probably paid around $25/hr. As you can see, it varies a lot, depending on several things.

My opinion, a good one should earn at least 50k per year working full time. Now you're not going to be coaching Masters full time though. So it becomes a matter of building a schedule made of private coaching, AG coaching, master coaching etc. I like your opinion and if I knew I could make that I'd be MORE than happy.

As far as schedule is concerned, at Rose Bowl there are 21 workouts a week. Here is the breakdown: 5:30 - 7:00AM, 6:30 - 7:30AM (a small group of 4 - 6), 12:30 - 1:30PM and 6:30 - 7:30PM, and Saturday morning 6:00 - 7:30AM. Our coach, I believe, is at all except Tuesday and Thursday morning. He does hire assistant coaches who do the Tue/Thurs morning and also help on the deck during other workouts. He also does a periodization chart for seasonal planning. He has given our small group of 4 - 6 swimmers dryland exercises to do on our own. He organizes get togethers at local restaurants at least once a month, he runs a Masters meet once a year in February, he has organized a Polar Bear Club in January of the last four years, a weight loss group, he maintains the website, communicates at least once a week to all members by email, he has written 2 articles that have appeared in Swimming World and Swimmer Magazine and in his four years here has grown the team by over 100%!! Maybe that is why he was selected SPMA Coach of the Year for '09 and why he is in the running for USMS Coach of the Year. I don't know what he is paid, but I hope it is in excess of 50K. We are very lucky to have such a good technical coach, good organizer, motivator and person in charge. Oh yes, and he is Canadian!!:canada:

It's been a few years since I've been with the Barracudas but the schedule for the full-time coach: Mon-Fri 5:15-6:45am (coach is usually there around 5am to help put in lane lines) Mon-Fri- 11:30-12:30 and 12:30-1:30 Mon-Thur 7-8pm Sat 6-7am So on-deck coaching is 22.5 hours per week. Add in prep time which I believe he gets 15 min per workout. No dry land included. He does go to every masters meet and is paid for that as well. Plus he gets sick days and vacation days. I won't mention his salary on here - besides it's been several years since I moved and left the board so I'm not sure what his current amount is anyway.

And that guy is certainly worth near or passed 70k per year. At the very least. Thank you, SolarEnergy! :)

SolarEnergy, We don't discriminate against Canadians eh? I don't think he was looked upon as a Canadian coach, but rather a Masters coach. We have about 200 swimmers in the program. We have two 50 meter pools and they are used 15 hours a day, 7 days a week. We have age group, family swim, water polo, diving, water aerobics, a therapy pool (small pool at about 90 degrees F), we have triathletes, and fitness swimmers, Olympians, Hall of Fame members etc. To answer your question as to wether the coaches salary is worth it, I would say absolutely! He has more than doubled the number of people in the program in four years. That would pay for his salary right there. www.rosebowlaquatics.org

I don't know what he is paid, but I hope it is in excess of 50K. Based on your description, I'd say that he is committed to more than 40hr of work per week, but it's normal. And that guy is certainly worth near or passed 70k per year. At the very least. Now that yields the question. Is it worth to spend that sort of money on Master Swimmer Training? My opinion (although I am bias): definite yes. Train the parents, most of them have children. Man this story is absolutely delightful. I am glad that such a program exists in the USA. It's probably the case either in Ontario, Alberta or British Colombia (the 3 provinces having an edge here in Canada). We are very lucky to have such a good technical coach, good organizer, motivator and person in charge. Oh yes, and he is Canadian!!:canada: This is odd though. Why would they hire a Canadian coach? He was probably living South of the borders well before accepting this contract I guess?

SolarEnergy, In Southern California we have several/many full time Masters coaches. I can think of three right off: Mission Viejo, SCAQ and Rose Bowl. Beaverton, Oregon has a full time masters coach as well.

We don't discriminate against Canadians eh? I'd find it pretty normal though. Different certification paths. Besides, US still has a huge edge over Canadian in Swimming I find. Just a personal opinion. Since I am Canadian myself, I think I am allowed to be little more critic about our home brewed swim coaches. Anyway, I am not proud of the avg level of swim coaching here up North. That doesn't mean that there aren't highly competent ones. There are. But we have a hard time retaining them...... Coach Durieux (btw, that's a French Last Name. He may be from Quebec, this weird French speaking Province in which I live) is yet another living proof. And I'm not even judging Master coaching. Because there, it's completely discouraging. We have about 200 swimmers in the program. Which compares in number with a Squad I regularly train with. And it compares to a few squads I can think of. Numbers are there. Swimming is very popular here up North. Bloooody freaking frustrating Parents volunteers committees, those who vote on Salaries (among other crucial things) are what I believe to be the bigger part of the problem. And it's not about to change. Vicious circle. Any solution? Anyway, I am absolutely pleased to see that these organizations work well for you in California. If there's one person that could confirm that such structures exist here in Canada, it would be Lindsay. If he's reading, I'd love to hear about his take.