In threads where training philosophy comes up, discussions of TRIMPS and TSS and other training models occasionally intrude. These models are not very well known, and even more poorly understood, so probably SolarEnergy, qbrain and I are just talking to each other and killing threads in those conversations. In any case, I figured I would present a brief overview of what it is that we're talking about when this terminology starts showing up.
Best case, this will introduce these models to the subset of swimmers (or coaches) who would be interested enough to use them, but didn't previously know enough to do so.
Plus, even if you're not the type to be interested in quantifying your training, it can be useful to think about workouts in this general framework.
And, at the very least, this might serve as a place to discuss some of the details without worrying about driving those other threads too far off-topic.
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Are you sure? Both increased efficiency and increased lactate tolerance will result in more points if either adaption is used to swim faster in future workouts. +1
That's why, in the same time, waste of energy that occurs during fly training, that results in less points compared to back stroke is kind of bugging me a little. Not much though. It's secondary.
True. I wouldn't have bothered if I could strap a data acquisition computer to me like cyclists and runners can do. At that point, the data is available for better analysis. The number of times I can keep in my head during practice to later put in the computer is limited. Cyclists and runners face similar issues. Data acquisition is relatively simple on the Bike, but for running it's a different story. Big debates exist as to if we should try and input Weight Lifting equivalent scoring data. No conscientious. I personally do not log weight lifting data at all. However I do log my aerobic based cross training data.
The biggest taper effect from weights comes from decreased tissue damage I would guess, not decreased energy usage. Let us not forget glycogen related adaptation here, since it's probably one of the thing that is common to both weight lifting and swimming. Glycogen probably depletes at a rate that is fairly similar to that of swim sprinting.
My point being, I think tissue damage and recovery from that is not easily modeled and is critical to taper. Well put. I think that muscle tissue damage recovery time goes parallel to time to replenish glycogen levels. So it ain't a bad thing to completely forget one in favor of the other.
That said though, I do not (and probably never will) log any weight resistance data, probably because it occupies a ridiculously low portion of my total weekly training time.
Are you sure? Both increased efficiency and increased lactate tolerance will result in more points if either adaption is used to swim faster in future workouts. +1
That's why, in the same time, waste of energy that occurs during fly training, that results in less points compared to back stroke is kind of bugging me a little. Not much though. It's secondary.
True. I wouldn't have bothered if I could strap a data acquisition computer to me like cyclists and runners can do. At that point, the data is available for better analysis. The number of times I can keep in my head during practice to later put in the computer is limited. Cyclists and runners face similar issues. Data acquisition is relatively simple on the Bike, but for running it's a different story. Big debates exist as to if we should try and input Weight Lifting equivalent scoring data. No conscientious. I personally do not log weight lifting data at all. However I do log my aerobic based cross training data.
The biggest taper effect from weights comes from decreased tissue damage I would guess, not decreased energy usage. Let us not forget glycogen related adaptation here, since it's probably one of the thing that is common to both weight lifting and swimming. Glycogen probably depletes at a rate that is fairly similar to that of swim sprinting.
My point being, I think tissue damage and recovery from that is not easily modeled and is critical to taper. Well put. I think that muscle tissue damage recovery time goes parallel to time to replenish glycogen levels. So it ain't a bad thing to completely forget one in favor of the other.
That said though, I do not (and probably never will) log any weight resistance data, probably because it occupies a ridiculously low portion of my total weekly training time.
