Is it possible to improve THAT fast?

Is this for long course, Chris? What about short course, or heck, even the 1650? One of the guys in that list, Chris Krupiarz, was a teammate and friend of mine in age group swimming! Yes, it was LCM. For SCM that year there were only 9 swimmers, none faster than 20 minutes: Terence W Kerrigan 22 20:27.50 Michael A Bell 21 20:42.62 Joey Lee 22 20:44.80 Curt McLellan 24 23:19.73 Craig Conner 23 23:30.66 Stuart A Barton 22 23:48.10 George A Klamo 22 26:06.15 James A Weis 21 26:13.63 Greg Matteck 23 32:52.24 Here are all the TT times recorded for that age group under 18 min: Jeff Poppell 23 16:15.25 1993 Brad Winsor 24 16:18.65 1995 David Spires 22 16:39.09 2005 Andy Nonaka 24 16:48.74 2003 Travis J Carranza 23 17:02.39 2007 Michael D Collins 23 17:03.17 1989 Jay Griffin 21 17:04.97 1996 Matt Grahn 23 17:12.50 1995 James Boegman 24 17:43.37 1988 Ryan White 22 17:44.22 1996 John C Scurlock 24 17:49.06 1989 Max R Biessmann 23 17:57.10 2008 Alexander Payne 24 17:58.12 2008 Travis J Carranza 24 17:58.92 2008 In SCY, the TT times in 1990 for the 1650 were Michael D Collins 24 17:05.44 Mike Lotz 24 17:27.98 Paul A Eure 24 17:38.00 Richard J Wills 20 18:43.57 Paul Von Destinon 23 18:43.75 Steve Plamondon 24 18:49.73 Mark O Smith 22 18:58.27 Steven G Behrens 23 19:19.26 Thorsten Anderson 23 19:35.68 John W Armfield 24 20:03.01 There were many people (70+) in the TT in that age group who have been faster than 18 minutes in the 1650 over the years, so I won't list them all. But I didn't see his name in any Top Ten listing for the 1650 or 1500 in any course. BUT...Tom is right in that, if he swam in a Recognized meet but wasn't a USMS member, his time wouldn't appear in the TT. Heck, there are lots of official USMS times that weren't submitted for TT consideration, especially 20 years ago. I know for a fact that some years, my predecessor TT Recorders in Virginia would fail to submit times. So all I can say is that I am unable to confirm that his time ever appeared in the official USMS Top Ten, which isn't quite the same thing as saying he never did it (an "absence of proof is not proof of absence" type of thing.)

Is this for long course, Chris? What about short course, or heck, even the 1650? One of the guys in that list, Chris Krupiarz, was a teammate and friend of mine in age group swimming! Yes, it was LCM. For SCM that year there were only 9 swimmers, none faster than 20 minutes: Terence W Kerrigan 22 20:27.50 Michael A Bell 21 20:42.62 Joey Lee 22 20:44.80 Curt McLellan 24 23:19.73 Craig Conner 23 23:30.66 Stuart A Barton 22 23:48.10 George A Klamo 22 26:06.15 James A Weis 21 26:13.63 Greg Matteck 23 32:52.24 Here are all the TT times recorded for that age group under 18 min: Jeff Poppell 23 16:15.25 1993 Brad Winsor 24 16:18.65 1995 David Spires 22 16:39.09 2005 Andy Nonaka 24 16:48.74 2003 Travis J Carranza 23 17:02.39 2007 Michael D Collins 23 17:03.17 1989 Jay Griffin 21 17:04.97 1996 Matt Grahn 23 17:12.50 1995 James Boegman 24 17:43.37 1988 Ryan White 22 17:44.22 1996 John C Scurlock 24 17:49.06 1989 Max R Biessmann 23 17:57.10 2008 Alexander Payne 24 17:58.12 2008 Travis J Carranza 24 17:58.92 2008 In SCY, the TT times in 1990 for the 1650 were Michael D Collins 24 17:05.44 Mike Lotz 24 17:27.98 Paul A Eure 24 17:38.00 Richard J Wills 20 18:43.57 Paul Von Destinon 23 18:43.75 Steve Plamondon 24 18:49.73 Mark O Smith 22 18:58.27 Steven G Behrens 23 19:19.26 Thorsten Anderson 23 19:35.68 John W Armfield 24 20:03.01 There were many people (70+) in the TT in that age group who have been faster than 18 minutes in the 1650 over the years, so I won't list them all. But I didn't see his name in any Top Ten listing for the 1650 or 1500 in any course. BUT...Tom is right in that, if he swam in a Recognized meet but wasn't a USMS member, his time wouldn't appear in the TT. Heck, there are lots of official USMS times that weren't submitted for TT consideration, especially 20 years ago. I know for a fact that some years, my predecessor TT Recorders in Virginia would fail to submit times. So all I can say is that I am unable to confirm that his time ever appeared in the official USMS Top Ten, which isn't quite the same thing as saying he never did it (an "absence of proof is not proof of absence" type of thing.)