the dangers of the triathlon swim

Interesting article. They recommend better screening of participants. In Triathlons, Swimming Poses Greatest Risk of Death By John Gever, Senior Editor, MedPage Today Published: April 06, 2010 Reviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco and Dorothy Caputo, MA, RN, BC-ADM, CDE, Nurse Planner Earn CME/CE credit for reading medical news Most triathlon participants who drop dead during the competition do so in the water, researchers said. Investigation of 14 sudden deaths among triathletes from 2006 to 2008 showed that all but one occurred during the swimming portion, reported Kevin M. Harris, MD, of the Minneapolis Heart Institute of Abbott Northwestern Hospital in Minneapolis, and colleagues. No deaths occurred during running events. One participant died after a bicycle crash. All the swimming deaths were officially attributed to drowning, "but seven of nine athletes with autopsy had cardiovascular abnormalities identified," the investigators wrote in a research letter appearing in the April 7 Journal of the American Medical Association.Action Points -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Explain to interested patients that triathlons typically involve strenuous exertion that may contribute to sudden cardiac death in patients not in top physical shape. Explain that a cardiovascular stress test and other evaluations may be warranted for individuals seeking to train for or participate in triathlons for the first time. Harris and colleagues recommended that triathlon organizers set minimum achievement standards for participants, "including swimming proficiency." The apparent cardiovascular risk should motivate individual competitors to be evaluated before racing, but mass screening of participants is probably impractical, the researchers also noted. The JAMA letter updates data reported by Harris at the 2009 American College of Cardiology annual meeting. He and colleagues reviewed data on some 959,000 participants in events sanctioned by USA Triathlon, the major standard-setting organization for such events, from January 2006 through September 2008. The data were collected by this group and the U.S. Registry of Sudden Deaths in Athletes. The 14 deaths translated to a rate of 1.5 per 100,000 participants, the researchers reported. A total of 2,971 events were included in the analysis. Distances were relatively short in 45% of events, medium in 40%, and long in 15%. For the swimming portions, these categories were defined as less than 750 meters for short events, from 750 to 1,500 meters for medium distances, and more than 1,500 meters for long triathlons. Six of the swimming deaths happened in short events, four in medium-distance swims, and three in long races. Two of the latter were so-called Ironman triathlons in which the swims are 3,860 meters (2.4 miles). Death rates per 100,000 participations in these swim distance categories were: Short: 1.4 (95% CI 1.1 to 3.1) Medium: 1.0 (95% CI 0.4 to 2.8) Long: 2.8 (95% CI 1.0 to 7.5) In eight of the fatal swimming incidents, the participants were noted to have called for help; five were found motionless in the water after other swimmers had moved on. Although 41% of participants were female, only two of the 13 swimming deaths involved women. Besides gender, another contributing factor was the number of competitors in a given race, according to Harris and colleagues. The mean number of participants in triathlons in which an athlete died was 1,319 (95% CI 1,084 to 1,584), compared with 318 in races without deaths (95% CI 302 to 334), they reported. "Because triathlons begin with chaotic, highly dense mass starts, involving up to 2,000 largely novice competitors entering the water simultaneously, there is opportunity for bodily contact and exposure to cold turbulent water," Harris and colleagues wrote. They also noted that triathlon swimmers in distress may not attract attention as quickly as a troubled bicyclist or runner. One large study found a death rate of 0.8 per 100,000 among marathon runners, half that in the current triathlon study. In the seven dead swimmers with autopsy findings showing cardiovascular abnormalities, six had mild left ventricular hypertrophy. Their maximum cardiac wall thickness was 15 to 17 mm and the mean heart weight was 403 grams (SD 77). One of these individuals had a clinical history of Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome. The seventh athlete was found to have a congenital coronary arterial anomaly. Harris and colleagues noted that their data may not have included every athlete who died during a triathlon, as such deaths are not subject to mandatory reporting. The study was also limited to events sanctioned by USA Triathlon, leaving out an unknown number of other competitions. Finally, some athletes likely participated in multiple events included in the study. The Hearst Foundation supported the study. No potential conflicts of interest were reported. Primary source: Journal of the American Medical Association Source reference: Harris K, et al "Sudden death during the triathlon," JAMA 2010; 303: 1255-57. Earn CME/CE credit for reading medical news Related Article(s): ACC: Triathletes More Likely to Die Suddenly Than Marathoners
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    100% correct one added factor though...race directors and USAT have 100% interest in money and 0% interest in safety. very similiar to the same people who run oil refineries or coal mines. wasn't like this back in the 80's or early 90's. :sad: I have to politely disagree. When the swimming leg is cancelled it is the athletes that get upset. It is a triathlon afterall
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    As a swimmer I never thought I'd be in the position of defending triathletes. Instead let me throw some facts out. While many may say they compete in triathlons, in fact most do it for fun and to complete it. It is a different kind of sport than pool swimming. It is more akin to a fun open water swim when the locals come out to see if they can do it, which in places around the world can mean thousands. If they don't feel comfortable doing freestyle some just simply do breaststroke. No shame in that: there have been channel crossings by people doing just breaststroke (there have also been some done only fly but those folks are just plain nuts.) Have you ever swam in a wetsuit? You bob up and down like a cork. I just don't know how you can drown in one unless you are already suffering a heart attack. You do not (and many don't) need to swim in a pack. People start on the sides and in the back. Some wade in waiting for everyone else to leave. The rest just have to make sure their head is right which has more to do with relaxing than swimming. Also a mass start is the exception. Most of the time the swimmers are broken into heats based on age. This limits the size of the crowd. Ironman races are the exceptions. Sprint triathlons only take about 1 1/2 to 2 hours to complete. This approaches the typical length of a workout for some. In early season races some only have a 250 - 500 yard indoor swim. Walls are always available. Many starting to do triathlons start with these. The bike is 12 miles and you are not allowed to draft. If you can ride a bike 5 miles you can ride 25 miles. Just coast between pedal strokes if you really have to. And finally the 3 mile run. If you can't run the 3 miles there is no shame in walking. It's completely acceptable in the sport. The course for many Sprint Triathlons is flat. So if you have to float wearing a wetsuit, coast on your bike and walk the run, why bother doing a triathlon at all. Very simply because it is just so much fun and people are friendly and supportive.
  • You do not (and many don't) need to swim in a pack. People start on the sides and in the back. That doesn't work. Many tri's are wave start and the waves are not based on ability. As a result, the fast in later waves climb over the slow in earlier waves......big time! You can't get out of the way by starting in the back of your wave. I can't believe how many panic struck people I pass as they are sometimes rudely overtaken from behind. I'm telling you, I've seen some real panic struck people who are not even swimming at all. Obviously totally gassed out.
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    It seems that there is some weird allure of the triathlon to the crowd that "just got fit." I hear and see over and over people who have lost a little weight and have started working-out that they "are a triathlete" and are doing triathlons. Many have never done a brick workout and certainly haven't experienced anything like the sensory overload of a tri. I don't see this much with swimming, seems most people will wait extra long to do their first meet. But, for whatever reason some folks think they lose 10 pounds, buy a bike and a suit, go to a few spin classes and they are tri ready. It wouldn't surprise me. I have been cycling for about 20 years and swimming for about 17 years(I also did some running). I have always been lean and healthy but still never competed in a triathlon. If I would decide to compete I would still make sure to properly prepare myself for the event because there are several things to consider besides swimming in a pool, cycling by yourself and running: you have to combine and coordinate all three disciplines, you have to swim among a huge crowd in open water, you have to cycle among a bunch of other cyclists which considers a great deal of good cycling technique, stress factor etc. On triathlon boards I read more than once that total beginners with 0 experience immediately want to compete. Their post usually sounds something like this: "Hi, I've just started running 3 months ago to lose weight. Now I want to do triathlons and just bought a new road bike yesterday. I'm planning to compete in a triathlon in 2 months but I can't swim freestyle. Does anybody know how I can learn to swim in two months?" 90% of the responses go like this:"Great! Have fun at the competition. Don't worry about swimming. Just swim the best you can". If I suggest "wouldn't it be better to take the time and learn how to swim and really prepare yourself for a triathlon without the pressure of needing to compete in 2 months?" The typical response to that is:"why?, it isn't important to win your first race. The main thing is to have fun". Well, I agree to some point but there is a reason why so many runners and triathletes have constant injuries. Sudden death is just the most extreme result of the lack of preparation. I always think "What's the big rush?:confused:
  • Although I appreciate the +1 to my earlier post, the safety remark doesn't match my experience. Of all the tris I've participated in, I can't think of one that wasn't well-staffed with lifeguards for the swim, police officers for the bike, volunteers at aid stations, etc. One in particular stands out in my mind - the race was run idiotically (in the official results, the winner had a negative swim time... need I say more?) but there were plenty of people ensuring safety out there. I have not experienced a cancelled swim leg. I have heard of some tri companies that put on dangerous races (particularly those that cater to n00bs) but have not been in any of those myself.
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    Great Video. Funny my first thought when watching it was the same as the written comment. Sometimes what works for you is not the theoretically perfect stroke.
  • Sounds like you gotta be able to sprint close full speed for about 100M and be able to maintain your distance pace after a breif recovery. Can you draft in the swim?
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    If they don't feel comfortable doing freestyle some just simply do breaststroke. No shame in that: there have been channel crossings by people doing just breaststroke (there have also been some done only fly but those folks are just plain nuts.) I agree with all that you wrote, except the thing on Breaststroke. Performing BS in a pack is kind of selfish. Very safe for the breaststroker, immensely dangerous for those that follow. Being hit hard by a breaststroke kick in the middle of a 3.8 swim can make a lot of damage. If you can't swim the free, take swim lessons and stay away from triathlon until you're clear with it. Can you draft in the swim? I think I just answered your question? Yes you draft. And it's kind of a gamble most of the time because you may draft a pack shorcutting a buoy. Mass Pack DQs are fairly common. Best triathletes can swim the free switching from normal free to water polo free without loosing any speed: YouTube- Freestyle Stroke Analysis: Pro Triathlete Scott Neyedli Look for his second length, btw that is his open water 3.8k race pace turnover rate. 44min for 3.8k
  • I agree with all that you wrote, except the thing on Breaststroke. Performing BS in a pack is kind of selfish. Very safe for the breaststroker, immensely dangerous for those that follow. Being hit hard by a breaststroke kick in the middle of a 3.8 swim can make a lot of damage. If you can't swim the free, take swim lessons and stay away from triathlon until you're clear with it. Hey, if people can swim all over you at the start of race, which can wreak havoc on some folks, swimmers had better be sighting enough to know that someone is swimming directly in front of them, regardless of stroke.