It is with some trepidation that I start this thread as I expect that many if not most Forumites will approach this issue with initial antagonism to my position in favor of butterfrog as explicated in the "both sides of the lane line" article in the current issue of SWIMMER but I ask Y'all to approach it with an open mind.(I expect antagonism as even my friends refer to my beloved and beautiful breaststroke as"evilstroke so I shudder at the initial reaction to butterfrog.)But look at the argument:George argues against it on historical and aesthetic grounds where as my argument is more practical.As to the aesthetic argument,what is uglier,both to the spectator and the participant than going vertical on butterfly.
George you are a great swimmer and an inspiration,but when is the last time you swam a 200 fly at a meet?
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It seems like this one goes both ways, though. Some people learned to do butterfly using a frog kick, thus refuse to change to a dolphin kick. Likewise, those who learned using dolphin can't see why the other version should be legal. Which side is being obstinate?
Kirk, like you, I learned fly with a dolphin kick. It's the only thing I have ever known. But I also know that not everyone has learned fly that way, since I have tried to study the history of the sport.
I don't think too many people that swim butterfrog haven't tried to learn how to dolphin kick on fly. In fact, I would say many, if not most, have tried to learn it to make them faster.
But it seems to be that a number of people who learned fly with a dolphin kick seem to be smug, if not a$$holes to people that swim fly with a breastroke kick, when instead everyone should be happy to see a person out there doing a 50, 100, 200 fly race instead of not participating in the events.
If it takes someone swimming fly events with a breaststroke kick, gets them to be involved in an event, a meet, part of masters, how is that a bad thing?
It seems like this one goes both ways, though. Some people learned to do butterfly using a frog kick, thus refuse to change to a dolphin kick. Likewise, those who learned using dolphin can't see why the other version should be legal. Which side is being obstinate?
Kirk, like you, I learned fly with a dolphin kick. It's the only thing I have ever known. But I also know that not everyone has learned fly that way, since I have tried to study the history of the sport.
I don't think too many people that swim butterfrog haven't tried to learn how to dolphin kick on fly. In fact, I would say many, if not most, have tried to learn it to make them faster.
But it seems to be that a number of people who learned fly with a dolphin kick seem to be smug, if not a$$holes to people that swim fly with a breastroke kick, when instead everyone should be happy to see a person out there doing a 50, 100, 200 fly race instead of not participating in the events.
If it takes someone swimming fly events with a breaststroke kick, gets them to be involved in an event, a meet, part of masters, how is that a bad thing?