men's ncaa psych sheet 09 vs 10

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2009 psych sheet at (click on results) collegeswimming.com/.../ 2010 psych sheet at championships.coloradotime.com/.../m10_off_ps.pdf After a quick run down there seems to be some pretty significant differences throughout. For example, here is a comparison of the 1650... 2009: 1 seed = 14:35 23 seed = 14.58 2010: 1 seed = 14:46 23 seed = 15:08
  • The number of A cuts is interesting, but I think a better measure is looking at the Meet Qualifying time for each event year-over-year. This message lacks smilies. RECTIFY! :banana::bouncing::bow::cheerleader::bump: That is a lot of work you put in, and it does support what, to a casual observer, appears to be a fairly consistent slowing of times across all of the events. I heard Gary Hall Sr. speak a few weeks ago and one of his points was that the tech suit experiment demonstrated concretely that even small changes in drag can make big differences in performance.
  • I heard Gary Hall Sr. speak a few weeks ago and one of his points was that the tech suit experiment demonstrated concretely that even small changes in drag can make big differences in performance. I don't think you can say that, because I don't think anyone has demonstrated why the suits work. I've heard a lot of theories, with much hand-waving: -- less fatigue due to muscle compression -- buoyancy and changes in body position -- (surface) drag -- hydrodynamics (form drag) If anyone has actual conclusive data to support one over the other, I'd love to see it.
  • I don't think you can say that, because I don't think anyone has demonstrated why the suits work. I've heard a lot of theories, with much hand-waving: -- less fatigue due to muscle compression -- buoyancy and changes in body position -- (surface) drag -- hydrodynamics (form drag) If anyone has actual conclusive data to support one over the other, I'd love to see it. I don't know that he was trying to opine as to all of the reasons that tech suits might improve performance. I think he was using tech suits as an example of how large changes in performance could be produced by small changes in conditions.
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    One additional factor that might be interesting to consider is the Olympic effect. 2008 was an Olympic year - and we might expect many of the very best NCAA swimmers were training for the Olympics too. Could the 2009 times be very fast because of both the suits and the lingering effects of intense training for the Olympics?