Freestyle body rotation/getting power from the hips

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First of all, I don't know if these concepts are directly related. But I finally got some coaching tips and realize that I am plowing through the water like I am swimming like I am stroking with my belly on a surfboard. I have learned to get the high elbow recovery and now I feel the rotation of my body, or at least the potential for it to rotate. So my question is, do I force my body to rotate more, or is this a natural consequence of doing other things correctly? I can especially feel it on my left/non-breathing side where I can force myself to over rotate beyond which I am doing. The power from the hips part, I was told I need to do that, but I have no idea how to execute it.
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    Solar, I'm only guessing but I suspect that it would only take a minimal amount of force to stop your rotation, which would indicate it isn't very powerful. It looks to me like you are performing the rotational equivalent of starting a swing into motion without touching the ground. Hi Lindsay, I was rotating at 's for the pulling aspect. For those who swim a free style technique that allows them for this, same principle than what is occurring when you sink the head of an opponent whilst playing water polo. That's on the hand entry. Creates a little bit of lift forces surrounding catch phase. But not everyone swim like this. Most prefer to not benefit from this lift force in favor of extending little more in the front (thus missing the timing that could allow for some body rotation **weight** to be used for lift). But the lawn mower analogy applies to most free stylers, no matter the technique. - - - Here mate, Popov is demonstrating the two very clearly. On catch, he sinks the head of an opponent whilst being in a rough water polo game, and of course with the other hand, he's starting a reluctant lawn mower. YouTube- Alexander Popov swimming technique Note that the **weight** that can be put on catch can be handled in a much more subtle way by good free style specialists. For instance, I believe that better and safer EVF could be achieved by locking the shoulder articulation little more (as opposed to letting it all loose). With the shoulder locked this way, some of the downward body rotation weight can be used instead of the force that the limb could produce alone. Lots of triathletes swim this way. They are not overly bothered by the fact of being limited in their movement due to wet suit. They just lock the shoulder articulations and apply body weight on downward body rotation whilst (of course) using upward body rotation to start this lawn mower whilst pulling. And of course, they put even more weight to lift their head to look in the front, just like demonstrated early in Popov's clip.
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    Solar, I'm only guessing but I suspect that it would only take a minimal amount of force to stop your rotation, which would indicate it isn't very powerful. It looks to me like you are performing the rotational equivalent of starting a swing into motion without touching the ground. Hi Lindsay, I was rotating at 's for the pulling aspect. For those who swim a free style technique that allows them for this, same principle than what is occurring when you sink the head of an opponent whilst playing water polo. That's on the hand entry. Creates a little bit of lift forces surrounding catch phase. But not everyone swim like this. Most prefer to not benefit from this lift force in favor of extending little more in the front (thus missing the timing that could allow for some body rotation **weight** to be used for lift). But the lawn mower analogy applies to most free stylers, no matter the technique. - - - Here mate, Popov is demonstrating the two very clearly. On catch, he sinks the head of an opponent whilst being in a rough water polo game, and of course with the other hand, he's starting a reluctant lawn mower. YouTube- Alexander Popov swimming technique Note that the **weight** that can be put on catch can be handled in a much more subtle way by good free style specialists. For instance, I believe that better and safer EVF could be achieved by locking the shoulder articulation little more (as opposed to letting it all loose). With the shoulder locked this way, some of the downward body rotation weight can be used instead of the force that the limb could produce alone. Lots of triathletes swim this way. They are not overly bothered by the fact of being limited in their movement due to wet suit. They just lock the shoulder articulations and apply body weight on downward body rotation whilst (of course) using upward body rotation to start this lawn mower whilst pulling. And of course, they put even more weight to lift their head to look in the front, just like demonstrated early in Popov's clip.
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