Flip turns are still killing me

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In workouts I'm breathing every stroke and into and out of every flipturn. Even worse, once I am really gasping for air (in the middle of a hard set or on the 3rd turn of a 100) I am almost coming to a stop off the turn to catch my breath. I've been swimming 2000-3000 yards 3x/week for the last 18 months dropping intervals and increasing speed but I guess I am still just not in good enough cardiovascular shape? Of course, it can't help that I have been constantly reinforcing bad habits. But can I just keep plugging away and eventually the fatigue from swimming the length will at least equal the fatigue from the turns? The alternative I imagine is some kind of hypoxic training that is going to make me miserable. But I'm willing to do what I've gotta do at this point.
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    Wow, more than a year later I realize that all of you were right. One day recently I decided to focus on really blowing out as much air as possible and was amazed at how much more I had - like I could create a Jaccuzzi under me which made me think - how do you know when you have fully exhaled (assuming that is the goal)? I also have since found I have high blood pressure which is now mostly under control. That is mostly good news because I had some health scares but passed a lot of other tests for what could have been much worse. I don't know if the breathing was more cause and effect of tension while swimming, but the exhaling along with working towards a high elbow and proper hand entry has me now feeling so much more comfortable in the water. I can now do longer sets with bilateral breathing which has really helped balance out my stroke. Oh the air, it feels so good!
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    When there is literally no more air for you to exhale. Try to blow more air out and you can't because there is none. It's not a good state to be in - if you are underwater then you will have to fight the reflex to inhale. I get in this state sometimes when I take too many SDK's, go too deep on a pushoff after a back-to-*** flip turn, cough in the middle of a flip turn, that sort of thing. It's definitely not the goal. It hurts. That is what I figured. But why is it that if I sit here and take a deep breath I can only exhale for a second but while swimming, or even just bobbing under water, I can create such a prolonged long stream of bubbles?
  • That is what I figured. But why is it that if I sit here and take a deep breath I can only exhale for a second but while swimming, or even just bobbing under water, I can create such a prolonged long stream of bubbles? Really? I can't blow all my air out in a second, even if I try... it especially takes a while to blow out the last bits.