Flip turns are still killing me

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In workouts I'm breathing every stroke and into and out of every flipturn. Even worse, once I am really gasping for air (in the middle of a hard set or on the 3rd turn of a 100) I am almost coming to a stop off the turn to catch my breath. I've been swimming 2000-3000 yards 3x/week for the last 18 months dropping intervals and increasing speed but I guess I am still just not in good enough cardiovascular shape? Of course, it can't help that I have been constantly reinforcing bad habits. But can I just keep plugging away and eventually the fatigue from swimming the length will at least equal the fatigue from the turns? The alternative I imagine is some kind of hypoxic training that is going to make me miserable. But I'm willing to do what I've gotta do at this point.
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    It does seem though that during the flip turn is the one place where I would be forced to fully exhale due to the duration under water? My personal experience with running out of air on flip turns was that I was blowing out too much during the flip and while pushing off, when I minimized the exhale during the turn to just enough to keep water out of my nose it greatly reduced the need for a quick breath. And if you've got a good quick flip it doesn't take much of an exhale. The duration under water really shouldn't be a big factor if you don't exhale until just before you breath. Is it possible that you are breathing out continuously instead of in a burst? That will really reduce the time you can go without breathing.
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    It does seem though that during the flip turn is the one place where I would be forced to fully exhale due to the duration under water? My personal experience with running out of air on flip turns was that I was blowing out too much during the flip and while pushing off, when I minimized the exhale during the turn to just enough to keep water out of my nose it greatly reduced the need for a quick breath. And if you've got a good quick flip it doesn't take much of an exhale. The duration under water really shouldn't be a big factor if you don't exhale until just before you breath. Is it possible that you are breathing out continuously instead of in a burst? That will really reduce the time you can go without breathing.
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