USMS final decision on tech suits for masters

I'm excited to use my B70 for scy's. I was one of the swimmers swimming in a banana hammock for the last two years and never purchased a tech suit until Dec '09. :banana: At least now i'll get my $$ worth. :bliss:

I'm thinking, in Pacific anyway, that they will not even let you swim in an illegal suit after June 1st. I could see them calling people down off of the blocks. The difference between wearing an illegal suit and an "in-race violation" is clear. I don't know too many people who swim a race and set out to get DQd (well I know of one), but if you intentionally put on the suit, you are challenging the rule and you should not be allowed to race. Do you think people will wear the suits to meets after June 1st? I don't know why you would. Makes sense Karen. I'm wondering what officials will do. But as to "out of race violations," isn't it ironic that swimmers can attend sanctioned USMS meets and be retroactively DQ'd from Top 10 without any notification due to our own officials not following the rules correctly? Since that's the case it seems only fitting to be allowed to do the swim in a tech suit of choice and simply be DQ'd after the fact. Or perhaps incompetence is simply excused. I personally wanted to compare tech suit swims to tech suit swims and/ or swim big line ups in a more pleasant fashion while getting full use of the suits I purchased.

See, this is where the tech suit argument comes off the rails totally. Why are you limiting your disdain for modern training devices to the suit? Goggles clearly are a bigger advantage both to training and racing. If you want a baseline, train au-naturale. How does a suit make me go artificially faster? That's ridiculous, I'm still swimming the race. I like going faster because I don't like going slower. If I'm training hours and hours a weeks I'm gonna buy the things that maximize that time - a good club, a good suit, a good coach, etc. If I have two clubs near me and one costs 10 times more than the other and I chose that club, are you gonna get all pissy about that too and take that away? Look, the rules are written, I have six months left and then we can all don our paper suits circa 1981 and talk about the glory days of the suits. Where's the Fort when I need her? WORD!

Some suits are made with advanced technology , a fabric called " E'Tanche" used in the some suits is waterproof. The pores in the fabric are about 20,000times smaller than a drop of water, however the pores are actually 700 times bigger than a droplet of water vapour , which means perspiration in the form of water vapour can easily pass out through the membrane. Therefore the fabric is breathable , while allowing the swimmer to remain dry and therefore obtaining a better body swim position. It has been tested these suits and have found that they improve performances by 8.5%. Several suits that use this technology are FINA Approved

Times always disappear in the Dixie Zone ... :bolt: Stop that!

Are we mistaken that all tech suits are full length suits.

A droplet of water vapor? Sounds like an oxymoron to me. Some people sweat dropslets of vapor I guess. Steam droplets are vapor and are also smaller then water droplets.

Sounds like something McGwire might say. I swung the bat so it wasn't the steroids. O.K., tech suits are legal and steroids are not, but it really isn't ridiculous to say your swim result was enhanced by a tech suit. Tim If we are getting picky then, we should go to meets without any training. Sign-up for events, race them, go home. That is the only way that our results won't be enhanced by anything other than our own abilities. Everything that we do...swim practices, dryland training, sleep, nutrition, stroke changes, goggles, starts, turns, they all ENHANCE our swims. Suits are just one more part of the equation. Swim results are enhanced by alot of stuff...not just one item.

The new rules say "a cap" is allowed. Does this mean 2 caps aren't allowed?Also assume modesty suits are still OK SCY til 6/1.If not at Nats with people trying to get one last swim from a suit it could get ugly. The Rules Committee considered using "caps" or "cap(s)" instead, but they decided to stay with the same wording that USA-Swimming uses (in their Rule 102.9.1A) except they added the bit about nose clip and ear plugs. Clearly the rule has been interpreted by USA-S in the past as allowing multiple caps. Your take on the modest suit seems correct to me. But I am not sure how the tech suits are allowed under 102.14.6, which is NOT labeled as a change and hence is currently the law of the land: "Swimmers are not permitted to wear or use any device or substance or swimsuit to help their speed, pace, buoyancy or endurance during a race..." (emphasis added) I just don't see a lot of wiggle-room here. This is also the same wording that USA-S uses (and of course they've banned the suits) but it does not match the printed USMS 2010 Rule Book. So I guess it is a change even though it wasn't labeled as such by underlining? I refer to them as "cheatin' suits" half in jest, but I guess it really is cheating... :)

Guess what, your not as fast without your expensive fancy cheating rubber suit. I guess that really is a hard pill to swallow for some. What I"ve heard is that all you need to do is train harder, smarter, or maybe swim downhill with Terry. I thought that it wasn't about the time you posted, the place you came in, or the person you beat, it was about, um, what? Nonsense. I just prefer and enjoy racing in my tech suit, which I will have worn for almost every meet for two years. I'm a speed junkie; it's more fun; it's my racing gear. (Who wants to wear their practice gear on race day?) I like the only gear we swimmers got. Sorry you don't. You should be happier now. I don't plan on training any harder, as noted above. And that last statement is very ninny-ish.