FINA issued Ruled,www.usms.org/.../showpost.php
Soon the USMS rules committee will issue their ruling.
SCM & LCM seems to be a done deal, the 2010 seasons started on Jan 1, 2010 & the rule began on Jan 1, 2010.
SCY is an American thing. The 2009 - 2010 SCY season began on June 1st 2009 and ends on May 31st 2010.
Will the new suit rules take effect immediately or at the end of this season?
I've heard rumours we might be able to wear full body suits at 2010 SCY Nats.
Look forward to finding out what the USMS ruling will be for SCY.
1/15/10 FINA BUREAU CONSIDERS SWIMWEAR RULES FOR MASTERS
The FINA Bureau has considered Masters swimwear rules. The USMS Rules Committee will learn the results shortly and then will immediately reconsider the USMS swimwear rules in cooperation with the USMS Executive Committee. All USMS members will be notified of any changes to USMS swimwear rules and the effective date. Regardless of any changes to the USMS swimwear rules, the June 1, 2009 USMS swimwear interpretations will apply for the duration of the One Hour Postal Swim being conducted in January 2010.
from www.usms.org/.../20100115swimsuits.pdf
you'll find the update at http://www.usms.org/rules/
Tech suits are allowed for USMS until they announce otherwise. So if the meet happens before an announcement, the B70 is completely legit.
It's a little more complicated if the meet is SCM, because FINA has already issued a ruling that the suits are not legal. In that case, if you want to be sure the swim is to count for FINA TT or a record, you should wear a FINA-approved suit even if USMS hasn't ruled yet.
I really wish one of the rule gurus would speak up as I don't believe that is true.I thought USMS rules state that we automatically follow FINA unless the appropriate committee meets and makes a ruling.If this is true then the suits are out now until USMS says otherwise.I am not a rules guru so I may be wrong,someone who really knows what the rule is please HELP.
If the Executive Committee is reading,
Remember: the House of Delegates, who represents the USMS population, already stated (through a vote) that the USMS population wants the tech suits out of the pool. It would be a nice gesture to those of us who attended the USAS Convention and spend countless unpaid hours working for and on behalf of USMS if you would honor our vote by ensuring that USMS will be following the Fina decision for all courses effective immediately (since we're already past our October voting preference start date for SCY).
Thank you!
i'm thinking the same thing as allen is thinking. i know i've seen a generic statement somewhere (generic in the sense that it wasn't written pertaining to tech suits) that says, unless otherwise stated or voted upon, we follow both USA-S and FINA when they make rulings... but in this case, does that statement overrule the prior rulings on tech suits made by USMS???
and i'm with muppet too- if the HOD said ban them on 1 october, then they need to be banned immediately. otherwise, the HOD has been totally undermined...
basically what i'm asking is, would someone with more authority than those of us here on the discussion forums please just make a decision and let us all know?!?
Tech suits are allowed for USMS until they announce otherwise. So if the meet happens before an announcement, the B70 is completely legit.
It's a little more complicated if the meet is SCM, because FINA has already issued a ruling that the suits are not legal. In that case, if you want to be sure the swim is to count for FINA TT or a record, you should wear a FINA-approved suit even if USMS hasn't ruled yet.
I really wish one of the rule gurus would speak up as I don't believe that is true.I thought USMS rules state that we automatically follow FINA unless the appropriate committee meets and makes a ruling.If this is true then the suits are out now until USMS says otherwise.I am not a rules guru so I may be wrong,someone who really knows what the rule is please HELP.
If the Executive Committee is reading,
Remember: the House of Delegates, who represents the USMS population, already stated (through a vote) that the USMS population wants the tech suits out of the pool. It would be a nice gesture to those of us who attended the USAS Convention and spend countless unpaid hours working for and on behalf of USMS if you would honor our vote by ensuring that USMS will be following the Fina decision for all courses effective immediately (since we're already past our October voting preference start date for SCY).
Thank you!
i'm thinking the same thing as allen is thinking. i know i've seen a generic statement somewhere (generic in the sense that it wasn't written pertaining to tech suits) that says, unless otherwise stated or voted upon, we follow both USA-S and FINA when they make rulings... but in this case, does that statement overrule the prior rulings on tech suits made by USMS???
and i'm with muppet too- if the HOD said ban them on 1 october, then they need to be banned immediately. otherwise, the HOD has been totally undermined...
basically what i'm asking is, would someone with more authority than those of us here on the discussion forums please just make a decision and let us all know?!?
