Hi,
I'm a butterfly beginner and currently having problem with my hips sinking too much when my arms start with the recovery. I posted some videos at my blog (http://blog.grkovic.com/?p=30) Hips sink so much that first downkick barely lifts them above them the water. Sometimes, they don't even come out.
If anybody would have any suggestions, I would appreciate it a lot.
Thanks.
- Predrag.
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Hi Solar,
yes I'm still following, sorry for a late reply.
Thanks for keeping me updated, don't hesitate to do it in future as well.
Regarding hands entry, I didn't work on it lately. Although there are some things I tried. I thought that close to the end of the recovery, arms could be stopped before entering the water (by literally fixing the shoulder joint) and they would actually "sink" into the water together with the upper body. Once I feel hands are in the water, I start with the catch. I don't know if it's correct and didn't have time to make some videos of this. I will post once I do them.
Also, looking at Phelps' hands entry, I had a feeling that he relaxes shoulders when hands enter the water, so water literally spreads his arms by itself. That way, he makes minimum of drag. Just my opinion :)
I managed to swim 75m butterfly recently (with no breaks :)) Also, I reduced my 50m time to 49"6 (without jump, underwater kicking etc). I think I started feeling second upbeat much better. I try to completely relax my hips after the second downbeat and to start upbeat by pushing my thighs downwards. Still not "perfect", but definitely better.
Also, I am going to order Speedo Speed Fins (www.amazon.com/.../B001HBHWB6). Since they exaggerate upbeat, I thought I would learn how to make it gentler, since it would pull my body down otherwise. Also, I thought if I put some weights around my hips, my body would try harder to lift them up. Another thing I would like to try is snorkel (in central position), something like www.finisinc.com/.../Adult-Swimmer's-Snorkel---Blue (I don't know why this link doesn't show properly in thread). In combination with dry top attachment, it could be useful for butterfly training as well. I haven't tried it yet, so I'll keep you updated about this as well.
Best regards.
Hi Solar,
yes I'm still following, sorry for a late reply.
Thanks for keeping me updated, don't hesitate to do it in future as well.
Regarding hands entry, I didn't work on it lately. Although there are some things I tried. I thought that close to the end of the recovery, arms could be stopped before entering the water (by literally fixing the shoulder joint) and they would actually "sink" into the water together with the upper body. Once I feel hands are in the water, I start with the catch. I don't know if it's correct and didn't have time to make some videos of this. I will post once I do them.
Also, looking at Phelps' hands entry, I had a feeling that he relaxes shoulders when hands enter the water, so water literally spreads his arms by itself. That way, he makes minimum of drag. Just my opinion :)
I managed to swim 75m butterfly recently (with no breaks :)) Also, I reduced my 50m time to 49"6 (without jump, underwater kicking etc). I think I started feeling second upbeat much better. I try to completely relax my hips after the second downbeat and to start upbeat by pushing my thighs downwards. Still not "perfect", but definitely better.
Also, I am going to order Speedo Speed Fins (www.amazon.com/.../B001HBHWB6). Since they exaggerate upbeat, I thought I would learn how to make it gentler, since it would pull my body down otherwise. Also, I thought if I put some weights around my hips, my body would try harder to lift them up. Another thing I would like to try is snorkel (in central position), something like www.finisinc.com/.../Adult-Swimmer's-Snorkel---Blue (I don't know why this link doesn't show properly in thread). In combination with dry top attachment, it could be useful for butterfly training as well. I haven't tried it yet, so I'll keep you updated about this as well.
Best regards.