Sinking hips during recovery in fly

Hey Predrag, if you're still following. Recently whilst working on something else (arm entry width and feeling) I made a little discovery. It's a feeling thing though, not a scientific one (sorry ;-) I needed to slow down the execution a bit, especially the moment between hand entry and the actual catch. I wanted to get this feeling that I'm nose diving while leaving my hands very close to the surface. My fly has been little screwed up as a result of wanting to learn, or get somewhat closer to Phelps's technique. I think those clips he let people publish on youtube, especially the 3 lessons are a huge chance. But in the same time, man, that's not easy to even get close. Like I said, I stopped flying fast, I live on 24 or 36 x 50m fly on 1:05 these days. So, back to the nose diving catch. During breathing recovery, uphill right?. Then after hands entry, downhill. During this slowed down execution with a very slow catch, I could really feel very clearly the moment where the weight shifts from upward to downward. And the hips being the pivotal moment. That, along with the clean entry and nose diving, I truly got the impression that I was keeping the forward momentum (a slow one though, 55s per 50m) at virtually no cost on entry. And more importantly, those hips that act as pivot. I could feel exactly where they are when executing this and they remain very close to the surface during the whole execution. Unfortunately at that speed I can't bring them totally at the surface. But tonight I tried fly at full speed and I really managed to control the depth of this nose diving whilst shallow catching. And by exaggerating the amplitude, well. Something was going on and the time confirmed. But damn is it difficult to learn. Takes huge shoulder flexibility. And I could not get through this without a solid dryland program. Impossible. I also think that Phelps stroke, as you get closer to this, you may loose a good deal of punch over 50m Fly. That technique isn't meant for short sprints. Way too soft on entry / catch.

Hey Predrag, if you're still following. Recently whilst working on something else (arm entry width and feeling) I made a little discovery. It's a feeling thing though, not a scientific one (sorry ;-) I needed to slow down the execution a bit, especially the moment between hand entry and the actual catch. I wanted to get this feeling that I'm nose diving while leaving my hands very close to the surface. My fly has been little screwed up as a result of wanting to learn, or get somewhat closer to Phelps's technique. I think those clips he let people publish on youtube, especially the 3 lessons are a huge chance. But in the same time, man, that's not easy to even get close. Like I said, I stopped flying fast, I live on 24 or 36 x 50m fly on 1:05 these days. So, back to the nose diving catch. During breathing recovery, uphill right?. Then after hands entry, downhill. During this slowed down execution with a very slow catch, I could really feel very clearly the moment where the weight shifts from upward to downward. And the hips being the pivotal moment. That, along with the clean entry and nose diving, I truly got the impression that I was keeping the forward momentum (a slow one though, 55s per 50m) at virtually no cost on entry. And more importantly, those hips that act as pivot. I could feel exactly where they are when executing this and they remain very close to the surface during the whole execution. Unfortunately at that speed I can't bring them totally at the surface. But tonight I tried fly at full speed and I really managed to control the depth of this nose diving whilst shallow catching. And by exaggerating the amplitude, well. Something was going on and the time confirmed. But damn is it difficult to learn. Takes huge shoulder flexibility. And I could not get through this without a solid dryland program. Impossible. I also think that Phelps stroke, as you get closer to this, you may loose a good deal of punch over 50m Fly. That technique isn't meant for short sprints. Way too soft on entry / catch.