Sinking hips during recovery in fly

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Hi, I'm a butterfly beginner and currently having problem with my hips sinking too much when my arms start with the recovery. I posted some videos at my blog (http://blog.grkovic.com/?p=30) Hips sink so much that first downkick barely lifts them above them the water. Sometimes, they don't even come out. If anybody would have any suggestions, I would appreciate it a lot. Thanks. - Predrag.
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  • I noticed that when my hands enter the water, I try to keep the same position as when I jump into the water, that's why probably my hands go to deep, instead of laying them softly on the water surface. This could be why my chest and head don't go below my hands on my hands entry. That's right. When I say your elbows are sinking, it's because your hands are too close at entry. Because of this you are forced to do an outsweep before you can pull and by this time, your elbows are too deep. They entry should be shoulder width while your head and torso dive below arm level. The catch should be immediate followed by only an insweep to the midline. You are so late in your pull because of this poor arm entry and late pull, that you can't get them to your midline and you are actually forced to pull them out of the water early to keep up with your tempo. Kick harder the second kick of the cycle during the recovery phase, it helps keep your body flat. It also helps to be going fast. How long you can manage this before it all falls apart is the crux of the problem, and the reason why some people never enter the 200 fly. It's OK to use equal size kicks, but like I think david.margrave suggests, making the kick on hand exit large and the kick on hand entry smaller is acceptable and may help. Others have suggested fins, this can help. Long fins or zoomers will work. Your speed will be greatly increased which will allow you to feel the correct hand entry etc.
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  • I noticed that when my hands enter the water, I try to keep the same position as when I jump into the water, that's why probably my hands go to deep, instead of laying them softly on the water surface. This could be why my chest and head don't go below my hands on my hands entry. That's right. When I say your elbows are sinking, it's because your hands are too close at entry. Because of this you are forced to do an outsweep before you can pull and by this time, your elbows are too deep. They entry should be shoulder width while your head and torso dive below arm level. The catch should be immediate followed by only an insweep to the midline. You are so late in your pull because of this poor arm entry and late pull, that you can't get them to your midline and you are actually forced to pull them out of the water early to keep up with your tempo. Kick harder the second kick of the cycle during the recovery phase, it helps keep your body flat. It also helps to be going fast. How long you can manage this before it all falls apart is the crux of the problem, and the reason why some people never enter the 200 fly. It's OK to use equal size kicks, but like I think david.margrave suggests, making the kick on hand exit large and the kick on hand entry smaller is acceptable and may help. Others have suggested fins, this can help. Long fins or zoomers will work. Your speed will be greatly increased which will allow you to feel the correct hand entry etc.
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