Sinking hips during recovery in fly

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Hi, I'm a butterfly beginner and currently having problem with my hips sinking too much when my arms start with the recovery. I posted some videos at my blog (http://blog.grkovic.com/?p=30) Hips sink so much that first downkick barely lifts them above them the water. Sometimes, they don't even come out. If anybody would have any suggestions, I would appreciate it a lot. Thanks. - Predrag.
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    Thanks a lot Paul for your comments. your hands ... barely reach your hips at the end of your stroke Which direction did you mean, when you look from side or front view? Should I try to make my arms "longer" or to make them closer to the body? you start to recover your arms by pulling them forward while your hands are still about 4-6 inches below the surface of the water. Stop the slowmo video at 1:09 and you should clearly see what I'm talking about. Nicely spotted :) When I started with my butterfly drills, I decided to use the same paddles (Speedo Power Paddles, medium size) that I use for my freestyle training. At first I couldn't swim with them, because the hands exit was so bad, it created so much downforce that I couldn't lift my head above the water surface. But, then I "corrected" it and now I can swim "normally" with paddles. Secondly, I tried to do Cavic's hands position 1822 But never managed to do it (not even close :() That's why I would bend my wrist (making almost 90 degrees between my palms and arms) on hands exit. But during the beginning of the recovery, my hands point down, so my fingers are the last to leave the water (which is wrong I suppose). And probably that's why I drag them below the water in the beginning. Later on, I put them in relatively acceptable position, where palms are pointing backward and fingers are horizontal. Probably my first blog post shows better my wrist movement: http://blog.grkovic.com/?p=3 Is there any video that shows in slow motion the correct wrist movement for the recovery phase and hands exit? Thanks for the drills, I'll try to include them in my swimming training. Best regards. - Predrag.
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    Thanks a lot Paul for your comments. your hands ... barely reach your hips at the end of your stroke Which direction did you mean, when you look from side or front view? Should I try to make my arms "longer" or to make them closer to the body? you start to recover your arms by pulling them forward while your hands are still about 4-6 inches below the surface of the water. Stop the slowmo video at 1:09 and you should clearly see what I'm talking about. Nicely spotted :) When I started with my butterfly drills, I decided to use the same paddles (Speedo Power Paddles, medium size) that I use for my freestyle training. At first I couldn't swim with them, because the hands exit was so bad, it created so much downforce that I couldn't lift my head above the water surface. But, then I "corrected" it and now I can swim "normally" with paddles. Secondly, I tried to do Cavic's hands position 1822 But never managed to do it (not even close :() That's why I would bend my wrist (making almost 90 degrees between my palms and arms) on hands exit. But during the beginning of the recovery, my hands point down, so my fingers are the last to leave the water (which is wrong I suppose). And probably that's why I drag them below the water in the beginning. Later on, I put them in relatively acceptable position, where palms are pointing backward and fingers are horizontal. Probably my first blog post shows better my wrist movement: http://blog.grkovic.com/?p=3 Is there any video that shows in slow motion the correct wrist movement for the recovery phase and hands exit? Thanks for the drills, I'll try to include them in my swimming training. Best regards. - Predrag.
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