Hi,
I'm a butterfly beginner and currently having problem with my hips sinking too much when my arms start with the recovery. I posted some videos at my blog (http://blog.grkovic.com/?p=30) Hips sink so much that first downkick barely lifts them above them the water. Sometimes, they don't even come out.
If anybody would have any suggestions, I would appreciate it a lot.
Thanks.
- Predrag.
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Thanks a lot for your long post funkyfish.
1)I think the biggest issue with your fly is that the timing is off (mentioned earlier, and by the way, not "bad advice").
I've seen this comment quite often in this thread. I guess you're all right about it. The only thing I would prefer is if you could point to the moment where you spotted the timing went off (and how the correct timing would be instead). Is it maybe off all the time? Or is it maybe some kind of general filling that you get after years of experience, so you can recognize it but cannot easily explain it with words?
2)There's too long of a pause from when your hands enter the water and when you begin your catch/pull, not sure if this is part of the timing issue but it might be (also not "bad advice").
Thanks for this comment. I just want to be sure that you didn't watch the "wrong" video. I put the link into one of my replies just to illustrate how it looked like four months ago (one where I swim in long white shorts). Did you refer to the video where I swim in black briefs?
For myself, I've noticed when the last part of the pull is timed with the downbeat of the kick, both help to push the upper body up for a breath and it seems to help in recovering the arms.
I noticed that my first downbeat finishes before my hands reach my hips. Do I maybe start first downbeat too early?
I'm a big fan of using fins simply because when I learned fly that's what helped me to get the timing together and after that the stroke "felt right."
You mentioned that I should not use zoomers but swimming fins. Did you mean those long, soft diving fins? Are monofins good for practicing fly?
Thanks again for all your advice and drills. I really appreciate it.
- Predrag.
Thanks a lot for your long post funkyfish.
1)I think the biggest issue with your fly is that the timing is off (mentioned earlier, and by the way, not "bad advice").
I've seen this comment quite often in this thread. I guess you're all right about it. The only thing I would prefer is if you could point to the moment where you spotted the timing went off (and how the correct timing would be instead). Is it maybe off all the time? Or is it maybe some kind of general filling that you get after years of experience, so you can recognize it but cannot easily explain it with words?
2)There's too long of a pause from when your hands enter the water and when you begin your catch/pull, not sure if this is part of the timing issue but it might be (also not "bad advice").
Thanks for this comment. I just want to be sure that you didn't watch the "wrong" video. I put the link into one of my replies just to illustrate how it looked like four months ago (one where I swim in long white shorts). Did you refer to the video where I swim in black briefs?
For myself, I've noticed when the last part of the pull is timed with the downbeat of the kick, both help to push the upper body up for a breath and it seems to help in recovering the arms.
I noticed that my first downbeat finishes before my hands reach my hips. Do I maybe start first downbeat too early?
I'm a big fan of using fins simply because when I learned fly that's what helped me to get the timing together and after that the stroke "felt right."
You mentioned that I should not use zoomers but swimming fins. Did you mean those long, soft diving fins? Are monofins good for practicing fly?
Thanks again for all your advice and drills. I really appreciate it.
- Predrag.
