I am guessing this will be the fastest of the Masters SCM meets. Who is coming to town ? Who is ready to suit up one last time ?
Friday, December 4, 2009
Warm-up 8:00 a.m., Meet starts at 9:00 a.m.
Check in for 1500 m Freestyle closes at 8:30 a.m.
1. 1500 m Freestyle (Women, Men)
2. Women’s 200 m Individual Medley
3. Men’s 200 m Individual Medley
4. Women’s 100 m Freestyle
5. Men’s 100 m Freestyle
6. Women’s 200 m Backstroke
7. Men’s 200 m Backstroke
8. *800 m Freestyle Relay* (Women, Men, Mixed)
Saturday, December 5, 2009
Warm-up at 8:00 a.m., Meet starts at 9:00 a.m.
Check in for the 400 m Freestyle closes at 8:30 a.m.
9. Women’s 400 m Freestyle
10. Men’s 400 m Freestyle
11. Women’s 50 m Butterfly
12. Men’s 50 m Butterfly
13. 400m Freestyle Relay (Women, Men, Mixed)
14. Women’s 100 m Backstroke
15. Men’s 100 m Backstroke
16. Women’s 100 m Breaststroke
17. Men’s 100 Breaststroke
18. Women’s 200 m Butterfly
19. Men’s 200 m Butterfly
20. *200 m Medley Relay* (Women, Men, Mixed)
21. Women’s 50 m Freestyle
22. Men’s 50 m Freestyle
23. 400 m Individual Medley (Women, Men)
Sunday, December 6, 2009
Warm-up at 8:00 a.m., Meet starts at 9:00 a.m.
Check in for the 800 m Freestyle closes at 8:30 a.m.
24. 800 m Freestyle (Women, Men)
25. Women’s 100 m Butterfly
26. Men’s 100 m Butterfly
27. Women’s 50 m Breaststroke
28. Men’s 50 m Breaststroke
29. 400m Medley Relay (Women, Men, Mixed)
30. Women’s 200 m Freestyle
31. Men’s 200 m Freestyle
32. Women’s 200 m Breaststroke
33. Men’s 200 m Breaststroke
34. Women’s 50 m Backstroke
35. Men’s 50 m Backstroke
36. Women’s 100 m Individual Medley
37. Men’s 100 m Individual Medley
38. 200 m Freestyle Relay (Women, Men, Mixed)
I am guessing this will be the fastest of the Masters SCM meets. Who is coming to town ? Who is ready to suit up one last time ?
Argh, everyone always says that! It is NOT the National SCM championships. And I assure you there will be some fast swimming on the east coast as well. Yes, LB may be the biggest meet, but not the fastest across the board. :-P And I'm definitely not crazy about that order of events, though at least you have 3 days to spread it out.
That said, good luck to all!
I'm sure everyone will be wearing their tech suits.
Personally, I do not get why we (USMS) continue to insist on holding the SCY Nationals as the premier event each year.
No one in the world gets SC Yard times except for Americans.
Probably not in my lifetime, but I hope some day the powers that be will see the light and switch it.
National Spring Championship meet - short course meters - just like the rest of the world.
The training for SCM & SCY is no different and it certainly could be done.
Perhaps allowing extra pool time at warmup or the day before the meet starts so athletes can familiarize themselves with the pool.
Don't be blaming TPTB: our current rule book already says that Spring nationals can be SCY or SCM:
"104.1 Meet Categories
USMS national championship meets shall be awarded in the following categories and
held during the following dates:
104.1.1 Short Course (25 Yards or 25 Meters)—Between April 15 and May 31."
Perhaps Jeff Roddin or someone else from the Championship Committee could comment further, but I suspect one big reason Spring nationals is always SCY is that there probably aren't that many facilities in the country that have two 8-lane SCM competition pools and another warm-down pool for 2000 competitors. (I think I heard that it was SCM one year, though.)
If there IS such a place, they absolutely should apply to have Spring nationals there. It would be so cool.
Although it will be fun to race Mike in person and Erik virtually, I'm not swimming any freestyle events. And thankfully I have aged out of that cut-throat age group, although 45-49 is awfully fast, too...
Well, Atlanta could be a SCM nationals. If they put the bulkheads together in the middle of the pool, then there are 2-25 meter courses. The diving well and the lap pool next door could be used as a warm-up/warm-down pool.
Indy could as well.
If a place like Atlanta had bid for nationals as a SCM arena, I wonder if it would affect attendence (and hence their bottom line)?
Aren't we a little "touchy" on the Fastest meet comment.
I wish, I could race Mike Ross in the Free - I guess we will have to continue our virtual racing for now .... Can't race Chris Stevenson, he cheats in the backstroke - he does these strange dolphin kicks in backstroke, that seems like cheating to me :)
Not touchy, just busting your chops. :) The Clovis meet didn't seem much like a true Nationals to me either.
In my book, strange is good.
Do you think the competitive types that attend Nationals would really be put off by it being SCM?
SCY and LCM Nats, IMO, are too close together -- agree with Wookiee. Going to both is a non-starter for me.
The Clovis meet didn't seem much like a true Nationals to me either.
I found better competition at Clovis than I would have at either Texas or Indy Nats, but that may just be my age group. I would have placed top 5 in all four of my events at Indy, but didn't crack the top 10 in any except the 200 free at Clovis. And at Clovis, Josh Davis didn't even show and ehoch had aged up...
Alas, another year, another missed Long Beach meet. Last year I got so far as to enter and I thought I would be able to make it. This year, not even that level of optimism.:badday:
I traditionally watch the SCM times come in every Dec. and see lots of fast ones from the East Coast. Sometimes I look at the Top Times (now called Event Rankings) and watch the list change quickly in every age group, though I know the list is not official at all.
Indy just held a Tyr Grand Prix Masters (SCM) meet with a decent turn out and some World Records. The good thing about it was that any "distance" relays swum on Oct 31 could be submitted for the first-ever World Records, which I gather have a publishing cut-off of Nov 1 (next cut-off to be May 1, 2110).:applaud:
The Great Lakes Zone SCM Championships-TYR Grand Prix will be the same weekend at the Univ of Chicago. (The pool that hosted the Gay Games).
This is a newer facility. Master's swimmers were the architect, steel builder company, locker room contributor and window contributor.
It is a two day format.
For more information: http://www.tyrgrandprix.com/www.tyrgrandprix.com/.../2009 TYR Grand Prix - Chicago.pdf