Kicking

Former Member
Former Member
What would you consider as the most important reason to include kicking in your workouts? Also, what do you see as the main difference and purpose between the exercises kicking with a board and kicking without a board?
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    A better indicator would be a squat (breaking parallel) or a conventional, Sumo or trap bar deadlift measured as a % of your bw. I am close to 200% (double my bw) on the Sumo DL. I have not noticed any effect on my swimming. With that said, if weight training would have an effect then it definitely would be on the very short 50m. sprints. I added spacing to your original post, because I want to address two separate points you made. I don't think your raw strength measurements translate to a performance measurement. I don't think comparing your raw strength metric with Fort's will be meaningful. There is no formula that tells you if you bench 2.5x your body weight, you will drop .25s on your 50 free. I do think that strength gains translate into performance gains. The most direct relationship between lifting and swimming happens to benefit non-sprinters more than sprinters. Every flip turn includes the power component of a squat. If you are working hard and getting stronger with your squat (or any variant), and you are not getting further from the wall faster, you aren't applying your new strength in the pool. What does this have to do with kicking? Ande says to kick faster PUSH HARDER OFF THE WALL :) Along with probably a billion other people who know what they are talking about. Otherwise, I got nothin'.
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  • Former Member
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    A better indicator would be a squat (breaking parallel) or a conventional, Sumo or trap bar deadlift measured as a % of your bw. I am close to 200% (double my bw) on the Sumo DL. I have not noticed any effect on my swimming. With that said, if weight training would have an effect then it definitely would be on the very short 50m. sprints. I added spacing to your original post, because I want to address two separate points you made. I don't think your raw strength measurements translate to a performance measurement. I don't think comparing your raw strength metric with Fort's will be meaningful. There is no formula that tells you if you bench 2.5x your body weight, you will drop .25s on your 50 free. I do think that strength gains translate into performance gains. The most direct relationship between lifting and swimming happens to benefit non-sprinters more than sprinters. Every flip turn includes the power component of a squat. If you are working hard and getting stronger with your squat (or any variant), and you are not getting further from the wall faster, you aren't applying your new strength in the pool. What does this have to do with kicking? Ande says to kick faster PUSH HARDER OFF THE WALL :) Along with probably a billion other people who know what they are talking about. Otherwise, I got nothin'.
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