What should USMS do about the suits?

You're likely right. I was scratching my head what he was talking about otherwise. A "suit" that is "approved" is a loophole?! I don't even want to get started on whether a tech suit is a "device." It's not a wetsuit and it ain't a device like fins. Just like the wetsuits, I likewise know my time differentials with fins. It's a whole different ballgame, folks. A suit is a suit. And it's one suit, singular, not two. FINA didn't have anything to "get around," since one suit is, in fact, "perfectly legal." The two suit phenomenon was immediately snuffed out. The tech suit has been around and evolving for some time now. I'm afraid I can't fathom Midas' comment about Geek being "pompous" either. I've always thought of Geek as anti-pompous and of attempting to squash signs of unbridled ego run amuck or indefensible statements run amuck as in the case of D2. I meant that the rules in effect were not designed for rubberized swim suits, while they did prohibit rubberized wetsuits. People found a way to take wetsuit technology and apply it to swimsuits in a way that allowed people to swim faster than they could in bare skin (which I believe is at least part of the reason wetsuits and suit stacking are not allowed). That is the loophole. The fact that FINA has now banned the suits is the closing of the loophole. Hopefully now it's clear! While I don't care for the name calling, I sure hope Geek took my response to him as "tongue-in-cheek" as I believe he intended his response to me. Some people don't take these things so personally. I found it interesting that you claim that "a suit is just a suit" and is distinguishable from a wetsuit but (to me) that's ridiculous and I'm sure you know it! If a "tech suit" was just a "suit" then we wouldn't even be having this argument. Like a wetsuit, the current generation of tech suits makes you faster than you are humanly capable of going. Please tell me if I'm wrong about this! You feel there's a difference but you, in fact, are are on the very slippery slope that lawyers love to talk about so much. Edit: Given the hooplah over the last two years, I'm not sure you can honestly say that tech suits are "perfectly legal". I think there has been a lot of controversy and questions about this since the moment the LRZ was first introduced. Take, for example, the lists of banned (and then unbanned) suits from earlier this year.

You're likely right. I was scratching my head what he was talking about otherwise. A "suit" that is "approved" is a loophole?! I don't even want to get started on whether a tech suit is a "device." It's not a wetsuit and it ain't a device like fins. Just like the wetsuits, I likewise know my time differentials with fins. It's a whole different ballgame, folks. A suit is a suit. And it's one suit, singular, not two. FINA didn't have anything to "get around," since one suit is, in fact, "perfectly legal." The two suit phenomenon was immediately snuffed out. The tech suit has been around and evolving for some time now. I'm afraid I can't fathom Midas' comment about Geek being "pompous" either. I've always thought of Geek as anti-pompous and of attempting to squash signs of unbridled ego run amuck or indefensible statements run amuck as in the case of D2. I meant that the rules in effect were not designed for rubberized swim suits, while they did prohibit rubberized wetsuits. People found a way to take wetsuit technology and apply it to swimsuits in a way that allowed people to swim faster than they could in bare skin (which I believe is at least part of the reason wetsuits and suit stacking are not allowed). That is the loophole. The fact that FINA has now banned the suits is the closing of the loophole. Hopefully now it's clear! While I don't care for the name calling, I sure hope Geek took my response to him as "tongue-in-cheek" as I believe he intended his response to me. Some people don't take these things so personally. I found it interesting that you claim that "a suit is just a suit" and is distinguishable from a wetsuit but (to me) that's ridiculous and I'm sure you know it! If a "tech suit" was just a "suit" then we wouldn't even be having this argument. Like a wetsuit, the current generation of tech suits makes you faster than you are humanly capable of going. Please tell me if I'm wrong about this! You feel there's a difference but you, in fact, are are on the very slippery slope that lawyers love to talk about so much. Edit: Given the hooplah over the last two years, I'm not sure you can honestly say that tech suits are "perfectly legal". I think there has been a lot of controversy and questions about this since the moment the LRZ was first introduced. Take, for example, the lists of banned (and then unbanned) suits from earlier this year.