has anyone out there tried P90X
several guys on my team are doing it
the 90 day before and after transformations are impressive
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I specifically wanted to know if it was technically possible to inflate muscle mass enough to achieve 2% body fat without death. I read the articles you posted, and I did not find anything to lead me to believe that essential fat, in lbs, increases with body weight.
An anorexic guy (A) at 120 lbs who has an obese identical twin (B) at 300lbs. A has an essential body fat percentage of 5% and B has an essential body fat percentage of 2%. They both have essential body fat of 6 lbs, because they have identical insides. Makes sense to me.
I didn't ask if you thought it was easy.
How did we get to comparing 5% with 2% :confused: I thought the initial argument was if an individual could reach 2% bodyfat without getting seriously ill or dying?
120 lbs * .02= 2.4 lbs fat
*.03= 3.6 lbs fat
Loss of 1.2 lbs fat
300 lbs * .02= 6 lbs of fat
*.03= 9 lbs of fat
Loss of 3 lbs fat
So once we get the numbers back on track, it's obvious you cannot compare the two. The amount of fat each would have at a given bodyweight will vary. Therefore, you have to look at what would happen when an individual at a certain bodyweight drops a percentage point. As you can see, quite a bit of fat is lost, which is detrimental when you are down to your last few lbs of fat. You cannot compare a 300lb man to one weighing 120 lbs..it's apples and oranges and whether or not they are twins is meaningless.
Furthermore, you cannot gain muscle mass without gaining fat mass. What do you think visceral fat is? It's the fat wrapped around your organs. It's what causes a beer belly, for example. Your entire body composition changes the larger or smaller you get. The stress on the organs of a 300 lb man is considerably more than that of a 120 lb individual. These are all common sense basics when discussing basic physiology, easily researched online if you took the time.
This is the last of my say on this, as we are just going around in circles here, and I almost think you must be trolling, because what you just wrote is plain silly. I highly recommend you take the time to read up on some of these subjects if they interest you, as there is alot of info you are misunderstanding for whatever reason.
I specifically wanted to know if it was technically possible to inflate muscle mass enough to achieve 2% body fat without death. I read the articles you posted, and I did not find anything to lead me to believe that essential fat, in lbs, increases with body weight.
An anorexic guy (A) at 120 lbs who has an obese identical twin (B) at 300lbs. A has an essential body fat percentage of 5% and B has an essential body fat percentage of 2%. They both have essential body fat of 6 lbs, because they have identical insides. Makes sense to me.
I didn't ask if you thought it was easy.
How did we get to comparing 5% with 2% :confused: I thought the initial argument was if an individual could reach 2% bodyfat without getting seriously ill or dying?
120 lbs * .02= 2.4 lbs fat
*.03= 3.6 lbs fat
Loss of 1.2 lbs fat
300 lbs * .02= 6 lbs of fat
*.03= 9 lbs of fat
Loss of 3 lbs fat
So once we get the numbers back on track, it's obvious you cannot compare the two. The amount of fat each would have at a given bodyweight will vary. Therefore, you have to look at what would happen when an individual at a certain bodyweight drops a percentage point. As you can see, quite a bit of fat is lost, which is detrimental when you are down to your last few lbs of fat. You cannot compare a 300lb man to one weighing 120 lbs..it's apples and oranges and whether or not they are twins is meaningless.
Furthermore, you cannot gain muscle mass without gaining fat mass. What do you think visceral fat is? It's the fat wrapped around your organs. It's what causes a beer belly, for example. Your entire body composition changes the larger or smaller you get. The stress on the organs of a 300 lb man is considerably more than that of a 120 lb individual. These are all common sense basics when discussing basic physiology, easily researched online if you took the time.
This is the last of my say on this, as we are just going around in circles here, and I almost think you must be trolling, because what you just wrote is plain silly. I highly recommend you take the time to read up on some of these subjects if they interest you, as there is alot of info you are misunderstanding for whatever reason.