High school swimming disqualifies advanced suits
By Thomas O'Toole, USA TODAY
High school swimmers will be banned from wearing high-tech suits under a rule announced Tuesday by the National Federation of State High School Associations.
The change, effective immediately, mirrors a recent decision by the sport's international governing body and puts more emphasis on the ability of the swimmer instead of the quality of the suit. Suits now must be of a woven/knit textile material, permeable to water and air and cannot aid buoyancy.
Boys suits can't go above the waist or below the top of the knee.
Girls suits can't go above the shoulders or below the top of the knee and can't cover the neck.
"Wow. It's a big deal," said David Marsh, coaching director and CEO at SwimMAC Carolina in Charlotte and a former coach at Auburn University. "Most purist coaches like myself are happy to hear that you are able to judge a swimmer by the performance of the athlete himself."
To emphasize his point, Marsh said all he had to do Tuesday was look around the Weyerhaeuser King County Aquatics Center in Federal Way, Wash., site of the Speedo Junior National Championships.
Many of the top high school swimmers are there, and the meet is scouted by hundreds of college coaches. He said he asked one coach if he was noting which suits the swimmers were wearing and was told yes.
High-tech suits generally prove more helpful to lower-level swimmers than Olympians. "Absolutely," said Marsh. He said college coaches need to know how much of a difference the suit makes when they "are looking at investing the amount they are investing in these high school swimmers.
"They are adding unnatural flotation to their bodies. The suit kind of covers technique flaws. It affects how you use your energy. You don't have to kick as hard. But the biggest thing might be the psychological impact of wearing them."
The ruling pertains to 250,000 swimmers at 13,000 schools nationwide.
"These high-tech suits had fundamentally altered the sport and become more similar to equipment, rather than a uniform," Becky Oakes, NFHS assistant director and liaison to the swimming and diving rules committee, said in a statement. "The rules of swimming have always prohibited the use or wearing of items that would aid in the swimmer's speed and/or buoyancy. The technical suits and styles had evolved to a point where there was little, if any, compliance with these basic rules."
Oakes added that the rule "will help guarantee fairness in competition."
According to Bruce Howard, spokesman for the national federation, state associations "in the strictest sense," don't have to follow the national rules, but they generally do. Howard said he believes that "because of the significance and nature of this rule" all the states will follow it.
Club teams such as Marsh's generally work with top high school athletes as well as Olympic-caliber swimmers. He said that puts him in a tricky position.
"Dialing back the rules in my purist sense is probably a good thing," he said. "In my efforts to coach elite swimmers, those guys are having fun in those suits."
from www.usatoday.com/.../2009-08-11-advanced-suits-ban_N.htm
"High-tech suits generally prove more helpful to lower-level swimmers than Olympians."
Enough said, ban all the high tech suit and make it fair for everyone. Even master swimmers…:D:afraid::bolt::dedhorse:
Enough said, ban all the high tech suit and make it fair for everyone. Even master swimmers…:D:afraid::bolt::dedhorse:
And is it fair that some get to train in high tech, state of the art facilities while I train in a shallow outdoor pool covered with a forced air bubble?
Drop the fairness argument, it fails in so many ways.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I could be mistaken, but the last time I checked their website, it appeared to me that Blue Seventy would sell one of their suits to anyone.
First of all, anyone who can afford it. High School swimming is full of people who cannot afford $500 for a swim suit.
Regardless, your comment was about fairness and there is a great possibility that a high tech swimsuit has a very different effect on different swimmers and different body types. I think the goal is to keep the playing field as level as possible and reward those who are able to figure out the intricacies of the swim strokes through their talent and hard work.
Why not just let people wear fins? It will make them swim faster, some more than others.
And is it fair that some get to train in high tech, state of the art facilities while I train in a shallow outdoor pool covered with a forced air bubble?
Sucks for you I guess but I think it is fair. I don't think we are looking for pure equality, or everybody would swim the exact same times. I think we are just looking to put one human up against others and see who can make it to the other end of the pool the fastest. The suits detract from that and it's good to see them go, as much as I love mine and love swimming faster because of it.
Where is the proof that the tech suits aid certain swimmers more than others?
I am not aware of any scientific evidence. I only suspect that it helps some swimmers more than others. I am only theorizing and reasoning from the many examples that I have seen through watching age group swimming. It is logical, though, that not everybody will be affected in the exact same manner given the various body types, stroke mechanics, etc.
Why take the chance that you are excluding so many from the sport based on income and a person's physical size? Why take the chance that you are creating an unfair or biased competition? A rubber suit enhances buoyancy from everything that I have read. How that buoyancy affects various body types should be analyzed. If by some miracle, it affects everyone the same way, then we are still left with the economic issue.
The governing bodies of the sport are responsible. Every suit should have to be approved for competition after a thorough unbiased scientific review...just the way every golf ball or every golf club is approved by the USGA.
Sucks for you I guess but I think it is fair. I don't think we are looking for pure equality, or everybody would swim the exact same times. I think we are just looking to put one human up against others and see who can make it to the other end of the pool the fastest. The suits detract from that and it's good to see them go, as much as I love mine and love swimming faster because of it.
So how is unfair if you and I race in B70s? Where is the unfair advantage in that race?
So how is unfair if you and I race in B70s? Where is the unfair advantage in that race?
I think the issue is that we don't know that it is fair for 2 swimmers to have the same exact buoyancy aiding suit on. We don't know if that additional buoyancy affects one swimmer differently than it does another. From what I have seen, it seems to benefit some more than others.
And is it fair that some get to train in high tech, state of the art facilities while I train in a shallow outdoor pool covered with a forced air bubble?
Drop the fairness argument, it fails in so many ways.
I don't think quality of the facility you train in will necessarily make a major difference. I've seen fast swimmers come out of teams that train in 40+ year old pools with cracked bottoms and missing lane-lines. I would say major competitions should be done in pools that meet some type of standardized specs (lane lines, depth, etc.); which for the most part they already do.
I grew up in a small farm town south of Fresno, CA - I know a thing or two about training in bad pools. Some of them where so shallow you could hardly do a safe flip turn at one end - and getting off the blocks was a matter of life or death it seemed!
