I searched and couldn't find this posted, but I could have missed it.
Anyways, its pretty interesting because the official basically says Cavic touched first, but didn't "push" and slid, while Phelps pushed with force, etc etc. (He talks about this right at halfway through the video)
www.swimchampions.com/.../
Personally I think you have to live with however the time system works as long as it is functional. If it was functional and Cavic didn't press hard enough, its tough luck.
The only alternative is to just present a "tie" when you are within the margin of error of the equipment.
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Yeah, I thought they were both shots from prelims, but you're probably right. The top shot is from finals and mirrored (and that's why the Speedo logo is on the wrong side) so that Phelps and Cavic appear in the correct lanes to correspond to the bottom shot, which is a shot from their prelim race where Cavic did win.
hahahahahaahahah......this is the good one..
How long will that guy have a job??? Or has he already bit the dust and it is his way of getting back at Omega.
Please don't drag me into this, I don't work for Omega.
joakimvitriol is a TROLL. His/her message count is revealing (especially considering the deceiving pictures linked). He's now resurrected this thread to continue his baiting. Pretty sad.
joakimvitriol,
You are right. Your articulate and lucid explanation of the facts has finally sunk in. Your mastery of persuation through written English has so overwhelmed me, I need not be shown any further photo evidence and certainly don't need any links to outside references.
It's clear to me now there was an outrageous cover up of the obvious facts. From this point on, I will tirelessly look to convince others who think Phelps touched first.
Thanks again.
i check and the foto is probably fake,i didnt know,my mistake....but all other evidence are sugestions the cavic was first....so sorry for my bad english,i hope you spoke any language but english...
I know you think he was first and you feel he was cheated. But this could go on forever. Phelps has the gold medal and no matter how hard you try it will not change. Take the complaint to FINA. We cannot solve the problem here.
Personally I am sure that Phelps won the race and the photos that I saw showed me that Phelps won. Phelps is not my favorite person but he is a great swimmer. Cavic is also a great swimmer.
i check and the foto is probably fake,i didnt know,my mistake....but all other evidence are sugestions the cavic was first....so sorry for my bad english,i hope you spoke any language but english...
:dedhorse::dedhorse::dedhorse:
why are we still talking about this... did Dara yap yap when she lost by the same margin??? did rebecca soni????????? did others...................
ok so who knows. maybe the touchpad was faulty. hmmmmmmm
what was his excuse in Rome??????????????????////
i am not saying this b/c i am a phelpsfan
Good video Val.
As far as I'm concerned, Cavic had the chance to "clear this all up" in Rome. We know what happened. The video evidence was more conclusive. Phelps nailed the lid on this "controversy".
I think we can all agree that Omega timekeeper said "...so it's for sure, the video also shows it, Cavic touched the pad before Phelps...".
Question is why Omega did not give us their video in 0.01 second frame by frame (like someone said before) but instead they again gave us some photos that shows nothing. What is the problem with simple truth uncovering?
Have you read ANY of the previous posts in this thread or could you not be bothered to see if you were, in any way, bringing up material that had already been discussed?
As for truth? Who's truth? Yours? Or the rest of the worlds?
Here's some truths for you:
1) Every olympic swimmer at the 2008 games KNEW that electronic touch pads were being used.
2) Every olympic swimmer at the 2008 games KNEW that it takes a certain level of force to trigger the pad
3) Every olympic swimmer KNEW that it's not who _touches_ the wall first who wins, it's who triggers the touch pad first because the electronic timing system was what was being used to determine order of finish.
4) Unless it was determined that the electronic timing system malfunction, the results of the timing system are the official results. So anything that is revealed thru other means such as high speed cameras is completely irrelevant because the timing system worked.
5) Everyone involved at the time agreed that the electronic timing system was functioning properly.
6) Cavic glided into the finish without even taking a single kick, his body was completely motionless as he reached the finish. And he lifted his head prior to touching the wall.
7) Heck, every elite year round competitve swimmer over the age of 12 KNOWS that you NEVER glide into the finish or lift your head prior to the touch unless you want to risk getting beat.
Now, exactly what truths do you disagree with?
Or what truths do you think that YOU have that countermand the ones above.
If you are a troll, then please go away, if you are not, please take the time to read thru this entire thread and then just let it go.
Well said Paul,
Yes, swimming is a "contact" sport. I just love the way Phelps punched it in that race. It was violent and angry. I think he left permanent marks on that touch pad.
