I searched and couldn't find this posted, but I could have missed it.
Anyways, its pretty interesting because the official basically says Cavic touched first, but didn't "push" and slid, while Phelps pushed with force, etc etc. (He talks about this right at halfway through the video)
www.swimchampions.com/.../
Personally I think you have to live with however the time system works as long as it is functional. If it was functional and Cavic didn't press hard enough, its tough luck.
The only alternative is to just present a "tie" when you are within the margin of error of the equipment.
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from the race club boards
Hi Kirk,
Never new I was an official anything. Yes I can point out Serbia on a map. I think the question is how credible is this person who is talking to millions possibly billions of viewers and calls me by name and then says i am an official of Serbia.....when I am wearing "Croatia" in big red letters on my back? This is the type of brainless media that the world is listening to.
It is sad how I know Rowdy Gains personally and he knows of the many athletes I have and am coaching. He never mentions me except in an attempt at being funny at my and my families expense. I am sorry for him.
When i talked to Mark (Schubert) after it was over and the video was reviewed he said "I would have done the same thing". ....as a matter of fact he did. He actually went in and looked at the Video before the Serbians got there. He also had questions about the finish. I believe that he too only wanted fairness to play-out.
The difference is in order to see the video they made the Serbians file a protest and pay $100US in cash. Then they officially reviewed it and officially said that they saw Phelps touch first on the video. They did not let the Serbians see the video till this morning (a day later). How easy would it have been to just show the head of the Serbian delegation the video as they did the US official?
A precedent was set at the 2001 World Championships in Fukuoka Japan. There were over 30 protested finishes that went to video review. This including one by the US that ended up in court and US won an appeal using the video. Did any of the informed media mention this? No they said that the timing system never failed, this is not true
It is amazing the lies the media gets away with.
I never told Mike he won, I hugged him and told him he swam a great race and that i was very proud of him!
I never said anything to Michael except good luck when I saw him before the race.
We were forced to file a protest. Nobody wanted to. As a matter of fact it was only as a result of the reaction of the crowd and the swimmers on the deck and stands as they looked at the over water video and saw what appeared to be Cavic's fingertips on the wall before Michael came around for his touch, that convinced us to go and do a check.
Bob Bowmen thanked me for having it reviewed. He knew it was better for Michael to have it cleared, as the conspiracy theorist were already spinning their tales.
Mike Cavic is happy to tears with his medal and I am proud to have coach him to such a great swim.
So if you want Kirk you can forward this around or not, I am ready to come home, where ever that is,
Take care,
Mike
Fight media mediocrity and forward this to your world.
--- On Sat, 8/16/08, kirk wrote:
Mike,
How does it feel to be described as a Serbian official? Do you even know where Serbia is located? At least you finally got your name mentioned during the Olympic swimming events. Anyway, congratulations on being named the Michigan coach. It is definitely an opportunity you earned. So my one peice of advice - don't blow it. Looking forward to talking with you when you get back.
from the race club boards
Hi Kirk,
Never new I was an official anything. Yes I can point out Serbia on a map. I think the question is how credible is this person who is talking to millions possibly billions of viewers and calls me by name and then says i am an official of Serbia.....when I am wearing "Croatia" in big red letters on my back? This is the type of brainless media that the world is listening to.
It is sad how I know Rowdy Gains personally and he knows of the many athletes I have and am coaching. He never mentions me except in an attempt at being funny at my and my families expense. I am sorry for him.
When i talked to Mark (Schubert) after it was over and the video was reviewed he said "I would have done the same thing". ....as a matter of fact he did. He actually went in and looked at the Video before the Serbians got there. He also had questions about the finish. I believe that he too only wanted fairness to play-out.
The difference is in order to see the video they made the Serbians file a protest and pay $100US in cash. Then they officially reviewed it and officially said that they saw Phelps touch first on the video. They did not let the Serbians see the video till this morning (a day later). How easy would it have been to just show the head of the Serbian delegation the video as they did the US official?
A precedent was set at the 2001 World Championships in Fukuoka Japan. There were over 30 protested finishes that went to video review. This including one by the US that ended up in court and US won an appeal using the video. Did any of the informed media mention this? No they said that the timing system never failed, this is not true
It is amazing the lies the media gets away with.
I never told Mike he won, I hugged him and told him he swam a great race and that i was very proud of him!
I never said anything to Michael except good luck when I saw him before the race.
We were forced to file a protest. Nobody wanted to. As a matter of fact it was only as a result of the reaction of the crowd and the swimmers on the deck and stands as they looked at the over water video and saw what appeared to be Cavic's fingertips on the wall before Michael came around for his touch, that convinced us to go and do a check.
Bob Bowmen thanked me for having it reviewed. He knew it was better for Michael to have it cleared, as the conspiracy theorist were already spinning their tales.
Mike Cavic is happy to tears with his medal and I am proud to have coach him to such a great swim.
So if you want Kirk you can forward this around or not, I am ready to come home, where ever that is,
Take care,
Mike
Fight media mediocrity and forward this to your world.
--- On Sat, 8/16/08, kirk wrote:
Mike,
How does it feel to be described as a Serbian official? Do you even know where Serbia is located? At least you finally got your name mentioned during the Olympic swimming events. Anyway, congratulations on being named the Michigan coach. It is definitely an opportunity you earned. So my one peice of advice - don't blow it. Looking forward to talking with you when you get back.