Why does it appear many masters swimmers are taking USMS so seriously?
What's the difference between the typical "selfish train all day", "it's all about me" triathlete and a masters swimmer who seriously trains as hard as they can.... particularly to focus on setting masters records?
Seems like there is a growing parallel between triathletes and many masters swimmers these days.
Isn't it just "masters swimming" for health and fun in the end?
Does a masters record really mean that much?
Is this a good thing? ..... or a turn off for those who look on with amusement.
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... Not everybody can be the winner, and nobody wants to be a loser....
I'm sort of lost now as to the point of this thread... but I'm easily confused so that is not really saying much.
:confused:
For pure entertainment value however, this has been good... so here is my 2-cents.
;)
I like too how this thread has brought out comments from long standing members with few posts (no multi post per day stats needed by them, no siree). As mentioned already... it is always interesting to see which seemingly mundane posts get the most attention.
:cool:
That "jim thornton" is a clever fellow... thanks for all the laughs!... entertainment, and thought provoking posts. I'm sure you've posted some comments simply about swimming, but I've been lapse in keeping up here recently so I cant think of any right off the bat.
:blush:
While I'm singling people out I'd like to say that even that "aquageek" guy is beginning to grow on me... in a good way (please! save your rants here, there seem to be enough already!). I'd like to eat a bit of humble pie and offer up an apology to him for basically calling him a f****** a****** so many moons back. That "gull" fellow caught your back (and he seems like a really 'stand-up' kinda guy)... and I've since reevaluated the harshness of my judgment, and am now attempting to set straight the crooked errors of my past ways. Some may call me a "9th Stepper"... so-be-it.
:whiteflag:
What other images has this thread conjured up for me?
How about seemingly "fat chicks" who can probably toast 90% of the general population (regardless of gender) with their athletic prowess. The slim look is good, but gimmie a woman with a bit of meat on her bones any day. ;) I'd much rather a gal who looks like she could wrastle me down... at least for a bit. (Too long and I'd be afraid.)
:afraid:
I'm no small fry either, at 6'2", 195#... I'm just feeling a bit off my game right now.
:(
One very vivid recollection is a quote I heard repeated by Click and Clack, The Tappet Brothers (en.wikipedia.org/.../Car_Talk)... I can still hear them cackling after its utterance:
"Only the mediocre are always at their best." - Jean Giraudoux
As for being #1... oh, that is much too easy:
YouTube - LAURIE ANDERSON - ZERO AND ONE
(be patient... mebbe grab one of those hard earned beers first)
"I'm no mathematician, but I'd like to talk about just a couple of numbers that have really been bothering me lately... and they are: Zero, and One.
Now first, let's take a look at 'Zero'... Now nobody wants to be a Zero... to be a zero means to be a nothing, a nobody, a 'has been', a clod....
On the other hand, almost everybody wants to be 'Number One'! To be number one means to be a winner, top of the heap, the Acme. And there seems to be a strange kind of National obsession with this particular number.
Now in my opinion the problem with these two numbers is that they are just too close... leaves very little room in there for 'everybody else'. Just not enough range.
So first, we need to get rid of the value judgments attached to these two numbers and realize that to be 'a zero' is no better, no worse, than to be 'number one'. Because...."
If you are not already familiar with the work of Laurie Anderson, but this got your interest, then I suggest the video this was taken from (currently hard to find), and the companion CD (much easier to find):
Home of the Brave (1986)
If you like that, then I suggest also the following... more or less in this order:
Big Science (1982)
Strange Angels (1989)
The Ugly One with the Jewels (spoken word) (1995)
Mister Heartbreak (1984)
Bright Red (1994)
What's all this got to do with "Masters Swimmers Acting Like Triathletes"? ... darned if I know.
:dunno:
One last thought...
I've heard it said that there are two kinds of people in the world - those who divide the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't.
my :2cents: ha-ha
... Not everybody can be the winner, and nobody wants to be a loser....
I'm sort of lost now as to the point of this thread... but I'm easily confused so that is not really saying much.
:confused:
For pure entertainment value however, this has been good... so here is my 2-cents.
;)
I like too how this thread has brought out comments from long standing members with few posts (no multi post per day stats needed by them, no siree). As mentioned already... it is always interesting to see which seemingly mundane posts get the most attention.
:cool:
That "jim thornton" is a clever fellow... thanks for all the laughs!... entertainment, and thought provoking posts. I'm sure you've posted some comments simply about swimming, but I've been lapse in keeping up here recently so I cant think of any right off the bat.
:blush:
While I'm singling people out I'd like to say that even that "aquageek" guy is beginning to grow on me... in a good way (please! save your rants here, there seem to be enough already!). I'd like to eat a bit of humble pie and offer up an apology to him for basically calling him a f****** a****** so many moons back. That "gull" fellow caught your back (and he seems like a really 'stand-up' kinda guy)... and I've since reevaluated the harshness of my judgment, and am now attempting to set straight the crooked errors of my past ways. Some may call me a "9th Stepper"... so-be-it.
:whiteflag:
What other images has this thread conjured up for me?
How about seemingly "fat chicks" who can probably toast 90% of the general population (regardless of gender) with their athletic prowess. The slim look is good, but gimmie a woman with a bit of meat on her bones any day. ;) I'd much rather a gal who looks like she could wrastle me down... at least for a bit. (Too long and I'd be afraid.)
:afraid:
I'm no small fry either, at 6'2", 195#... I'm just feeling a bit off my game right now.
:(
One very vivid recollection is a quote I heard repeated by Click and Clack, The Tappet Brothers (en.wikipedia.org/.../Car_Talk)... I can still hear them cackling after its utterance:
"Only the mediocre are always at their best." - Jean Giraudoux
As for being #1... oh, that is much too easy:
YouTube - LAURIE ANDERSON - ZERO AND ONE
(be patient... mebbe grab one of those hard earned beers first)
"I'm no mathematician, but I'd like to talk about just a couple of numbers that have really been bothering me lately... and they are: Zero, and One.
Now first, let's take a look at 'Zero'... Now nobody wants to be a Zero... to be a zero means to be a nothing, a nobody, a 'has been', a clod....
On the other hand, almost everybody wants to be 'Number One'! To be number one means to be a winner, top of the heap, the Acme. And there seems to be a strange kind of National obsession with this particular number.
Now in my opinion the problem with these two numbers is that they are just too close... leaves very little room in there for 'everybody else'. Just not enough range.
So first, we need to get rid of the value judgments attached to these two numbers and realize that to be 'a zero' is no better, no worse, than to be 'number one'. Because...."
If you are not already familiar with the work of Laurie Anderson, but this got your interest, then I suggest the video this was taken from (currently hard to find), and the companion CD (much easier to find):
Home of the Brave (1986)
If you like that, then I suggest also the following... more or less in this order:
Big Science (1982)
Strange Angels (1989)
The Ugly One with the Jewels (spoken word) (1995)
Mister Heartbreak (1984)
Bright Red (1994)
What's all this got to do with "Masters Swimmers Acting Like Triathletes"? ... darned if I know.
:dunno:
One last thought...
I've heard it said that there are two kinds of people in the world - those who divide the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't.
my :2cents: ha-ha