I was wondering if I was the only Master's swimmer who didn't know that there was a five event limit on all meets? As an Arizona swimmer, I signed up for the MV LCM meet a couple of weeks ago because there was no event limit on the meet flyer. I like to swim a lot of things (more bang for my buck, so to speak). I entered ten events on-line (not knowing I was being a criminal). Nobody refuted my entry. Imagine my sadness when a week after my swims I was informed that I was retroactively DQ'ed for events 6-10! These were some of my best times ever. I am really down about this. I even asked our LMSC Director the year before (after attending a MV meet and swimming 10 events) why Arizona couldn't allow more events per day and I was told it is up to the Meet Director as to how may events are to be permitted.
What are your thoughts? Am I being a baby or do I have a right to feel ripped off?
Well, if the meet flyer did not specify a limit then I think you have a right to complain. AFAIK there is not a limit on the number of events that can be entered in a single meet defined in the USMS rulebook but every meet I've entered in the last 2 years has had the event limit clearly stated on the meet announcement.
But I think I may understand the issue. The SPMA site states in the meet entry section "Please use this form to submit your entries for any of our meets. Also, please enclose a photo copy of your USMS registration card. You may enter up to 5 individual events plus relays for one day meets. Championship meets will state max number of daily events in the meet information. There is no need to enclose the meet information sheet found below. "
I've noticed that the meet announcement forms do not state an event entry limit. I'm assuming that the powers that be for SPMA feel that the statement on the website constitutes sufficient notification of event limits for SPMA meets. Since SPMA requires entries to be submitted using the SPMA consolidated meet entry form, they may also feel that the announcement on that form of a 5 event per day limit should be adequate. Personally, I disagree and feel it should be included on every meet announcement. If I happened to travel out to that area and just searched for meet announcements without going to the SPMA site, I would come to same conclusion and if hit by the Imp of the Perverse :afraid: could possibly enter more than 5 events thinking it was OK.
Also, the meet director and the meet referee have no leeway to alter the meet from what is stated in the meet announcement.
My vote would be that ALL your swims should count. There should not be an assumption that a swimmer will go to a website to find out meet requirements. If should be listed on the meet announcement.
Well, if the meet flyer did not specify a limit then I think you have a right to complain. AFAIK there is not a limit on the number of events that can be entered in a single meet defined in the USMS rulebook but every meet I've entered in the last 2 years has had the event limit clearly stated on the meet announcement.
But I think I may understand the issue. The SPMA site states in the meet entry section "Please use this form to submit your entries for any of our meets. Also, please enclose a photo copy of your USMS registration card. You may enter up to 5 individual events plus relays for one day meets. Championship meets will state max number of daily events in the meet information. There is no need to enclose the meet information sheet found below. "
I've noticed that the meet announcement forms do not state an event entry limit. I'm assuming that the powers that be for SPMA feel that the statement on the website constitutes sufficient notification of event limits for SPMA meets. Since SPMA requires entries to be submitted using the SPMA consolidated meet entry form, they may also feel that the announcement on that form of a 5 event per day limit should be adequate. Personally, I disagree and feel it should be included on every meet announcement. If I happened to travel out to that area and just searched for meet announcements without going to the SPMA site, I would come to same conclusion and if hit by the Imp of the Perverse :afraid: could possibly enter more than 5 events thinking it was OK.
Also, the meet director and the meet referee have no leeway to alter the meet from what is stated in the meet announcement.
My vote would be that ALL your swims should count. There should not be an assumption that a swimmer will go to a website to find out meet requirements. If should be listed on the meet announcement.
