FINA says Dubai Charter doesn't apply to Masters

Assumming it remains legal, I intend to compete in USMS competition, in the FINA banned, Blue70. My conscience will be clear (a fiqure of speech Jim) and my checking account balance will be $500 fatter, than if I had purchased the FINA legal, LZR. Absolutely, although, technically speaking, our account balance will be equal to the difference of the two items since we have to fork out the dough for the suit du jour, B70 or otherwise. I'll stick with the B70 as well, regardless of my conscious - clear, muddled or opaque - whatever. :chug:

Absolutely, although, technically speaking, our account balance will be equal to the difference of the two items since we have to fork out the dough for the suit du jour, B70 or otherwise. I'll stick with the B70 as well, regardless of my conscious - clear, muddled or opaque - whatever. :chug: Jim, Your math is right, but if you participate in the "buy-back", that Blue70 will have in January, 2010, you will get $200 credit on a new 70. You can turn in your 70 in January (after maybe 25 races) and buy a new 2010 FINA approved 70, for $200 off retail. I added the $200 buy-back into my calculations. Blue70 is a much better deal. I love swimming, but the cost of the LZR and the way Speedo does business don't appeal to me. See you in INDY!:chug:

Thornton has a conscience, albeit it is Smeagol-like in a devotion to dark, slimy places where the sun does not shine. www.google.com/images I am pretty sure that Mr. Cruise is calling me Precious. Thanks, Mr. C. But I am really not nearly as precious as you might think from just, well, knowing me.

A world record is a world record, why do we have to have world records recorded by the old age groupies. No 60 year old sets a true world's record. Old timers would never be able to compete with the likes of Phelps. You oldsters are trying to prove something you are not. There should only be one set of worlds records. There is a true set of world records everything else is a fantasy. I TOTALLY disagree.If a 60 year old sets a WR it means there is no one in the world that age who has swum faster.That is impressive to me.George,to take your idea to it's logical conclusion why keep WRs for any distance over 50 as the swimmers in longer distances are fooling themselves to think they are really the fastest.

Mr. Stark, Seems like you agree with Ion. World records for many categories. I'm fine with 5 year age groups,4 strokes plus IM,2 genders(the current system).I just wish FINA would make a final decision that makes sense.

Well, he's a "Press Commission" guy, who may or may not also be a rule-making guy. Certainly I have observed other types of "press secretaries" getting it wrong, or maybe getting it right at the time but then their decision-making bosses go and change the decision on them. Pedro Adrega is the Honorary Secretary of the FINA Press Commission. He is also the Editor in Chief of FINA Aquatics, the official monthly magazine of FINA. The last time I spoke with him (and it was over a year ago), he works directly for Cornel. Knowing the FINA office, nothing is going out without Cornel's approval. As there is an Extraordinary FINA Masters Congress in Rome next month, I would not expect any change in any decision until then. I would imagine that the FINA Masters Commission would be looking for direction from the FINA Bureau. just my $0.02. -michael

Thornton has a conscience, albeit it is Smeagol-like in a devotion to dark, slimy places where the sun does not shine.

Why don't we call the records by Phelps et. al.,World Records and all the other ones, Age Group World Records.

Mine is too. And mine

I'm wondering if FINA really requires that we swim with a conscience. I didn't see anything about it in the suit list or any other press releases. Does it constitute a tight-fitting extra suit? Since I don't have one, it isn't important to me whether anyone can see through it or not...